[Incubator] Info on the Old OSGeo Labs
Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us
Wed Mar 16 14:21:27 PDT 2016
I’ve got a few potential small projects that could go this new route, most all of them have not been announced here for the same reasons Jody has outlined.
While reading Jody’s last entry, I thought about the phrase “OSGeo Extras”, although that somehow didn’t seem to quite get the right description across.
Extras could mean potential Incubation, or just Extras. Maybe dropping the “OSGeo” part makes it more effective as a descriptor.
On Mar 16, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com<mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
Excellent discussion Bruce, thank you. I agree with the general feel here, that we are on a scale of "Community" (minimal) to "Project" (showcase best practice).
The miss assumption is "starting out" or "immature" - projects like pgRouting, GeoWebCache, proj4js are simply "small". We would like an opportunity as a foundation to support these projects and include them in our organization.
The downside to Hatch and Nurture is that they assume that a project will proceed towards graduation. While we may be able to capture this as a "staged" incubation process (as per Bob's suggestion) it also suffers from this perspective that the projects are "not ready yet".
I wonder if we could take this conversation in the other direction, contact projects like pgRouting and asking what would appeal (rather than guessing at this end what would be attractive).
* As a uDig lead I was dissuaded from joining OSGeo by being unable to meet the various incubation viability requirements (the project was too small).
* In prior conversations with Kevin Smith from GeoWebCache there is simply not a business driver to moving from labs to incubation - the project is not attracting enough committers to qualify. Indeed any available time to work on the project is put into the project directly.
On 16 March 2016 at 00:08, Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com<mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>> wrote:
Perhaps this is where we need to start.
What is it that we're trying to establish, together with the rationale. We can sort a name from there, rather than assuming that everyone is familiar with what the old 'Labs' were intended for.
In response to your question:
Assumption by me: The 'thing' is intended to support projects and their communities that are small, immature, or just starting out. These projects are not ready to begin graduation, or perhaps do not want to go through the process at this stage.
Therefore, we want to find a way to encourage them into the OSGeo Community, Principles and way of working. Projects may or may not wish to enter graduation as they evolve.
Therefore, I saw that we could have a nurturing role for these projects, to provide them with basic infrastructure for web presence, project governance and code repositories. If projects express an interest we could introduce them to some of the concepts required of an OSGeo Project in graduation. This is heading in the direction that Bob Basques suggested for staged graduation.
I see this as potentially a nuturing role, hence the two terms:
OSGeo Hatch (as in hatchery for new projects)
I hope this helps.
If my assumption as to the intent of this 'thing' is incorrect, then perhaps we could clarify as a starting point.
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