[Incubator] Motion: Rasdaman ready to graduate from OSGeo Incubation

Tue May 3 21:36:57 PDT 2016

-1 but in the PSC sense where I will work to find a solution.

We the incubation cannot relax this core tenant of our foundation (it is in
our objectives as an organization). But I will ask the board to consider
the idea in the next board meeting.

Can I kindly suggest that the project request to be listed as a community
project while this is looked at.

I am a bit disappointed to be at this impasse, but thank everyone involved
for the clear and polite communication.
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 6:45 PM Bruce Bannerman <
bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Bruce Bannerman <
> bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Incubation Committee,
>>
>> We have two days left to vote on this motion.
>>
>> There has been sufficient discussion to thrash out the issues.
>>
>> Given the nature of the vote and the six years of effort that the
>> Rasdaman Community have put into meeting OSGeo Incubation requirements, I
>> would like to see a strong indication of Committee Member's views on this
>> issue.
>>
>> I personally don't believe that there is room for Committee Members to
>> sit on the fence and not make a call on this.
>>
>> Remember, we are making a recommendation to the OSGeo Board.
>>
>> The Board will have the final decision.
>>
>> We have the following response after twelve days of voting:
>>
>>    - Bruce Bannerman
>>    - Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
>>    - Landon Blake
>>    - Howard Butler
>>    - Arnulf Christl
>>    - Jody Garnett
>>    - Dimitris Kotzinos
>>    - Tom Kralidis
>>    - Julien-Samuel Lacroix
>>    - Mark Lucas
>>    - Steve Lime
>>    - Daniel Morissette
>>    - Markus Schneider
>>    - Cameron Shorter
>>    - Jeroen Ticheler
>>    - Norman Vine
>>    - Frank Warmerdam
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Bruce Bannerman
>> OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:11 AM
>> Subject: Motion: Rasdaman ready to graduate from OSGeo Incubation
>> To: "Incubator at lists.osgeo.org" <incubator at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Cc: "<rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com>" <rasdaman-users at googlegroups.com>,
>> "<rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>" <rasdaman-dev at googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>> Take 2
>>
>> Dear Incubation Committee,
>>
>> After a long six years of effort, I'd like to recommend that Rasdaman is
>> ready for graduation from the OSGeo Incubation process.
>>
>> You will find the Incubation Checklist at:
>>
>> http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist
>>
>> I believe that the Rasdaman community have met our requirements to
>> graduate from incubation.
>>
>> I have found the community to be robust and very active attracting
>> contributors from many corners of the globe.
>>
>> The project is attracting quite a bit of interest, together with European
>> Union funding for additional development that appears to be going into the
>> open source version of the product.
>>
>> I have also noted that Rasdaman Gmbh is also moving some of their
>> previously proprietary capability into the open source version.
>>
>> Peter Bauman, the man behind Rasdaman is also making very significant and
>> noteworthy contributions to the world of open spatial standards through his
>> work within OGC and W3C Spatial Data on the Web Working Group. Rasdaman is
>> an OGC Reference implementation of several WCS related standards from
>> memory.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do have a reservation though:
>>
>> While I see that Rasdaman is meeting the requirements of the OSGeo
>> Incubation process, I do feel that it is not meeting the spirit of
>> Incubation.
>>
>> As an example control of the project is still tightly controlled around
>> Rasdaman GMbh:
>>
>> - Two of the three members of the Rasdaman PSC are members of Rasdaman
>> Gmbh;
>> - Project technical design and strategic directions are tightly
>> controlled and do not appear to be openly discussed on public emailing
>> lists. Things 'just happen'; and
>> - The Rasdaman-PSC email list contains no emails [1].
>>
>> I do know of one or two attempts to try to get public discussion going
>> about strategic technical direction, however I did not see much activity
>> related to it. This is probably symptomatic of the lack of a serious
>> attempt at community consultation on strategic and technical design issues
>> to date.
>>
>> My advice to the Rasdaman Community is that for you to truly thrive as an
>> open source community, you will need to look closely at this issue and
>> address it proactively. It is your project!
>>
>> Bruce Bannerman
>> OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman
>>
>> [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rasdaman-psc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> The checklist (http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist)
>> seems complete. The last communication from Bruce was also positive, but
>> did not elicit a response from this mailing list.
>>
>> I recommend Bruce invite discussion/review of checklist and prep a
>> recommendation for graduation (if he is comfortable doing so at this time).
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 21 April 2016 at 00:55, Peter Baumann <p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>
>> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> just a brief question, what are the plans about rasdaman incubation?
>> Last communication was 7 months ago, and this April we had our 6th
>> anniversary
>> of entering incubation.
>>
>> thanks for sharing your thoughts,
>> Peter
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Baumann
>>  - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
>>    www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
>>    mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
>>    tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
>>  - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
>>    www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
>>    tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
>> "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis
>> ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli
>> destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD
>> 1083)
>>
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