[Incubator] discussion on osgeo projects, osgeo community and incubation

[Jody Garnett]

Personally I like having two categories of project: osgeo community and
osgeo project.

While I am fine if projects use the "osgeo incubation" logo on their web
site (to document their participation in this program) perhaps we can ask
that links to their "incubation checklist" (make it a tool for
transparency).

I think we would do the public, and the foundation, a disservice if we let
"incubation" be a mark of recommendation, the somewhat heated discussion
about this leads me to believe it is being viewed as such currently.



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Jody Garnett

On 2 August 2017 at 17:11, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:

> The last group to contact is of course us, the volunteers on the
> incubation committee. Do any committee members or mentors have a
> perspective on this they would like to share?
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 2 August 2017 at 14:06, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have contacted the developer list of each incubating project to ask. It
>> is also a good chance to share the new branding in time for foss4g.
>>
>> The only odd one was the Team ENGINE project, which has not mentioned
>> incubation in any of their emails since joining in 2013.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 1 August 2017 at 08:47, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A discussion has started up on the marketing and board email lists -
>>> that may require a meeting of the incubation committee.
>>>
>>> Can I ask how many projects want an special incubation logo? I
>>> understand being proud of the commitment made to enter incubation :)
>>>
>>> Here is the email I sent to the board:
>>>
>>> *I am staring a new thread so the marketing committee can focus on the
>>> printing deadline for boston.*
>>>
>>> *Projects are starting to update to the new branding which is great - we
>>> have two branding available:*
>>>
>>> *- https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/project
>>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/project>*
>>> *- https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/community
>>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation/community>*
>>>
>>> *Projects that are part of our incubation process fall under community
>>> projects, they have met our standards for being open source, spatial and
>>> participatory and are being promoted as part of our foundation along side
>>> their fellow community projects pgrouting and geowebcache.*
>>>
>>> *For reference the prior branding is
>>> here https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Comparison_with_Incubation
>>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Comparison_with_Incubation>*
>>>
>>> *The larger story is the focus not on our foundation, but on the
>>> software projects and outreach.*
>>>
>>> ** As such the incubation process is no longer called out on our website
>>> (or in our branding) because it does not have any significance to website
>>> visitors. Incubation is an internal process of our software foundation - it
>>> does not earn its keep introducing a "third branding" if we cannot explain
>>> succinctly what it actually means for potential users of the software.*
>>>
>>> ** The board introduced the idea of community projects in response to a
>>> call to be more inclusive and allow innovation*
>>>
>>> ** Including more projects in our community does not detract from the
>>> projects that were already in our community. We are doing more for software
>>> projects at OSGeo to help everyone.*
>>>
>>> *We have been avoiding a difficult conversation on osgeo project quality
>>> on and off since January. At our most recent F2F meeting we took some
>>> action items to hear a report from Maxi and Jeff McKenna (in Boston?
>>> details still be arranged). The question of what we have to offer community
>>> projects and osgeo projects, and what we expect in return, should be
>>> considered in one go to be fair to everyone.*
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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