[Incubator] Application to accept GeoExt as a OSGeo Community Project

[Jody Garnett]

Sorry for the delay getting you website access, I was able to give you
permission last week. Please let me know when the website page is ready -
it would be good to have this in position for the foss4g conference next
week :)
--
Jody Garnett


On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 06:51, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks Jody for your detailed reply.
>
> To setup a GeoExt page do I need to apply for permissions as a "Project
> Author" as noted here [1]? Would this be done through a trac ticket? I have
> a login (sethg) to the website but can't create pages.
>
> The recent GeoExt3 project started with a new codebase in 2015 so my first
> link is probably out of date with regards to links to OpenLayers. The
> GeoExt PSC has acted independently at least since 2015 as far as I am
> aware. I'mm CCing to the GeoExt PSC list in case others can provide more
> information.
>
> GeoExt has a Contributor Agreement linked at [2] with the document at [3],
> but no mention of which license code is contributed under. All commiters
> will be recorded in the git history which will help with any code review.
>
> Also worth noting is the GeoExt PSC contacted Sencha directly for
> clarification on the licensing as recorded at [4].
>
> Hopefully those links add a little more information,
>
> Seth
>
> [1]
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/wiki/website%20roles#ProjectsAuthorProjectTeamProjectsEditor
> [2]
> https://github.com/geoext/geoext3/blob/master/development.md#contributor-agreement
> [3]
> http://trac.geoext.org/browser/docs/contributor_agreements/geoext_agreement.pdf?format=raw
> [4] https://www.geoext.org/pipermail/psc/2016-April/thread.html
>
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>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, at 8:44 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
> Going to highlight a couple things quickly:
>
> Can you start making a GeoExt page for the OSGeo.org website
> - This really should be a first step (as it hits several of the checks and
> is needed before we can announce the project)\
> - I am sure you have the content already from your OSGeo Live particpation
>
> For the source code copyright - it is not so much of an assignment as a
> donation of the code base the Open Source Geospatial Foundation...
> - OpenLayers was already part of OSGeo at this time ... what happened to
> this request?
> - GeoExt PSC continued to function independently of OpenLayers or not?
> - For GeoNode we had to go back to the former owner of OpenPlans and ask
> him to sign a Software Grant and Corporate Contributor License Agreement
> <https://www.osgeo.org/resources/corporate-contributor-license/> (listing
> GeoNode under Schedule B).
> - Not having these permissions is not terrible - it just limits the
> options of the GeoExt PSC....
>
> As for Ext3 - we can have open source projects that work in a non
> open source environment. This was the case for Java project's (before
> OpenJDK) and any number of open source windows projects. I suspect we can
> even find some open source projects based on arcobjects if we try...
>
> Free Software licenses (like GPL) have stricter restrictions, that dual
> license arrangement looks like it would need careful management. To pull
> that off you would really make sure to contributors contribute under BSD,
> or have a real clear CLA in place allowing PSC permission to take GPL
> contributions back to BSD. I would be really careful about any ExtJS code
> being duplicated/modified when you do a code review.
>
> What a complicated puzzel? Why bother releasing a GPL version? If you just
> released BSD it would work for both when releasing... Oh I get it,
> contributors that only have access to GPL ExtJS would have their
> contributions as GPL. Yeah a clear CLA would be a nice way out of this
> (GPL contribution comes in with CLA, PSC has permission to relicense as BSD
> for users of commercial ExtJS library). I guess releasing it as GPL only is
> off the table as those willing to pay for commercial license probably did
> so to avoid GPL responsibilities. Still I am sure these license questions
> have dogged the project for a while, I will read the FAQ.
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 at 05:12, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Dear Incubation Committee,
>
> On behalf of the GeoExt PSC I would like to apply for OSGeo Community
> Project status for the GeoExt project.
>
> From our understanding the project meets all criteria as listed at [1].
> The process for application has been documented in the GeoExt repository
> [2], along with a PSC vote.
>
> GeoExt is open source and enables building desktop-like GIS applications
> through the web. It is a JavaScript framework that combines the GIS
> functionality of OpenLayers with the user interface of the ExtJS library
> provided by Sencha. The project home page is here [3].
>
> The first release of GeoExt was in 2009, and the current version - GeoExt3
> started in 2017. Source code copyright has already been assigned to OSGeo
> (I believe following an application made on the OpenLayers mailing lists
> [4]). The project will also feature in the next OSGeoLive release [5].
>
> If there are any more details required for the application please let us
> know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Seth / GeoExt PSC
>
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects#Qualifying_As_An_OSGeo_Community_Project
> [2] https://github.com/geoext/geoext3/issues/547
> [3] https://geoext.github.io/geoext3/
> [4]
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/openlayers-dev/2009-March/004591.html
> [5] https://osgeo.github.io/OSGeoLive-doc/en/overview/geoext_overview.html
>
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