[Incubator] Contents of Incubator Digest, Vol 159, Issue 5; MOSS "heritage" project

Sun Oct 25 20:37:57 PDT 2020

Peter what is the physical aspect, we are not presenting this as an active
project, only offering to host the code (on osgeo github) and setup a web
page on osgeo.org/projects/moss
The questions on how to cite source code can honestly be left to the
libraries and legal scholars.
--
Jody Garnett

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 03:05, Peter Löwe <peter.loewe at gmx.de> wrote:

> Jody, Bruce, all,
>
> IMHO, the first step should be the permanent preservation of the
> rediscovered MOSS codebase.
> However, other tasks, including metadata, should also be considered and
> might be useful for future work by the Incubation Committee
>
> The codebase has been remained unchanged for a long time (static ?).
> There are no active developers or project members.
> There is no project mailing list.
> There is currently no point of contact on the OSGeo side.
> There is no best practice yet how to cite the MOSS project in publications
> (citation by URL is deprecated by publishers and librarians).
> OSGeo has no process and/or physical location yet to deal with physical
> specimens (books, documentation, storage devices)
> Do we need a role within in OSGeo to act as a "caretaker" for the project ?
>
> I believe some of these tasks can be resolved quickly by learning other
> parties:
>
> - The R project has already put a lot of thought into how to give due
> credit. Their approach is based on a classification of roles by the Library
> of Congress, USA.
>
> - The Library of BLM in Denver has a small collection of MOSS related
> documents and could be contacted regarding additional documents and their
> digitisation.
>
> - Once the codebase is on Osgeo GitHub, it can be recorded in the
> open-access repository Zenodo (www.zenodo.org, open source based, a
> permanent research infrastructure provided by the EC) for long time
> reference and citation. This would allow to cite the MOSS project and the
> codebase by a DOI (permanent identifier, designed to outlast URL-based
> links).
>
> I can offer to update the upcoming OSGeo Website based on MOSS wiki pages
> and handle the tasks related to Zenodo, if we want to do that.
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
>
>
> <peter.loewe at gmx.de>
>
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> > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:13:58 -0700
> > From: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> > To: Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
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> > I hope it won't require much effort, I really just want to put the
> codebase
> > on osgeo github (wider reach than our gitlab), and set up a page on the
> > website (perhaps link to it from the sol katz award page).
> >
> > Perhaps I missed something, I am not aware of any hardcopy materials, if
> > there are any it would be up to secretary at osgeo.org to manage.
> > --
> > Jody Garnett
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 17:38, Bruce Bannerman <
> > bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jody,
> > >
> > > I’ve been following the discussions on the Board list.
> > >
> > > I can still remember being trained in MOSS in the mid 80’s. It
> certainly
> > > made an impression on me having then come from a mainly Intergraph IGDS
> > > background.
> > >
> > > I believe that:
> > >
> > >
> > >    - It is appropriate for OSGeo to be the ‘Home’ for the legacy MOSS
> IP
> > >    and artefacts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    - It will probably require some effort to put this together.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    - From the discussions that I’ve seen so far, I suspect that there
> is
> > >    also hardcopy material as well that will need to be archived:
> > >       - I recall a similar discussion a year or two ago about some
> legacy
> > >       GRASS hardcopy materials.
> > >       - I don’t know that a group of virtual volunteers is necessarily
> > >       the right forum for preserving these hardcopy artefacts.
> > >       - Where could they be physically located and preserved?
> > >       - However, the hardcopy artefacts may be very important as
> evidence
> > >       of ‘prior art’, for those organisations and countries that need
> to deal
> > >       with ’software patents’.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7 Oct 2020, at 14:54, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Apparently the source code for the MOSS project, the work of Sol Katz,
> has
> > > been recovered.
> > > Starting an email thread with respect to providing a "home" for this
> > > source code at OSGeo (figured the incubation committee was in the best
> > > position to act).
> > >
> > > Holding on to inactive projects, is good in terms of IP precedence,
> and in
> > > this case as a historical artifact.
> > >
> > > The discussion on the board has proposed a "heritage" status, we
> already
> > > have project retiring process
> > > <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Retiring_Process>, used for
> > > community mapbuilder (see #322 <
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/322>).
> > > --
> > > Jody Garnett
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