[Incubator] GeoLens community project application
Even Rouault
even.rouault at spatialys.com
Tue Sep 29 09:22:43 PDT 2026
I'll be frank and very old school: human accountability is a joke when
you delegate code writing and reviewing to bots. AI is destroying open
source and everything else. Fuck it
Le 29/09/2026 à 18:08, Ian Shiland a écrit :
> Hi Nick/Even -
>
> One of the main reasons for applying for the OSGeo Community Project
> status is to help with product direction and attract other
> contributors, using AI agents or otherwise.
>
> I agree adding a section in CONTRIBUTING.md (human accountability,
> etc) makes sense; I also think having some standards for AGENTS.md is
> probably something to consider (testing, scope, and security
> expectations). I'm glad to do any of these if that is the direction
> the community aligns with.
>
> I appreciate the discussion regardless of the outcome for GeoLens here.
>
> Ian
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 3:45 AM Even Rouault
> <even.rouault at spatialys.com> wrote:
>
> Looking at
> https://github.com/geolens-io/geolens/graphs/contributors?from=27%2F06%2F2026
> , you can see that there were 4 other committers than Ian
> (excluding dependabot), contributing a grand total of 7 commits
> compared to Ian's 1095, and looking at their commits, it is clear
> (from the verbosity of the commit message) that 3 of them also
> used an agent. So the collaboration space is limited to people
> using agents.
>
> Le 29/09/2026 à 08:35, Nick Bearman via Incubator a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> Here are my thoughts.
>>
>> The board said they are not banning or enforcing the use if AI,
>> it is up to individual projects. They didn't say about use of AI
>> in Communtiy Projects.
>>
>> I suggest we apply the rest of the criteria - which, if memory
>> serves incudes that the project shows collaboration:
>>
>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee#Step_2:_Join_OSGeo_Community_Projects_Initiative>
>>
>> We ask that the project demonstrate collaboration, perhaps with a
>> history of bug report or pull requests.
>>
>> So I think this project qualifies. I've not reviewed everything
>> else but assuming it does then I think it is ok.
>>
>> Please do share more thoughts everyone!
>>
>> My personal opinion is that it would be worth making clear how
>> you used AI coding agents Ian. Perhaps this is something to add
>> to the README or CONTRINUTING files?
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Nick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 September 2026 23:03:19 BST, Jody Garnett via Incubator
>> <incubator at lists.osgeo.org> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>> The board has not really provided guidance on vibe coding.
>>
>> My own personal opinion is that open source requires
>> collaboration - the test our incubation process has is to
>> have input from several organizations (not just several
>> developers) in order to offer users some assurance that a
>> project will be sustained. With that in mind, while I am okay
>> with AI being used for assistance / reference, it has some
>> weakness from the sustainability angle.
>>
>> The above is my own take only; there was some osgeo
>> discussion over the summer but I did not understand the result.
>> - -
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2026 at 2:55:04 PM, Ian Shiland
>> <ishiland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Even,
>>>
>>> Yes. AI coding agents, mainly Claude Code with Codex as a
>>> reviewer, write most of GeoLens with guidance from me.
>>>
>>> If this is grounds for ineligibility, I'll withdraw the page
>>> submission.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 5:27 PM Even Rouault
>>> <even.rouault at spatialys.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> @Ian looking at the commit history and pull request
>>> history, this is obviously vibe coded. Can you confirm ?
>>>
>>> @Jody Is this OK for vibe coded projects to be
>>> community projects ?
>>>
>>> Even
>>>
>>> Le 28/09/2026 à 23:15, Ian Shiland via Incubator a écrit :
>>>> Hi Jody,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the access. The GeoLens project page is now
>>>> submitted for review. I left the project type as None
>>>> for now and will switch it to Community Project once
>>>> the committee confirms. Let me know if anything on the
>>>> page needs changing.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 12:33 PM Jody Garnett
>>>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> I added you as project author role, so you should
>>>> be able to create a page now!
>>>> - -
>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 20, 2026 at 7:42:07 AM, Ian Shiland
>>>> <ishiland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jody,
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve confirmed that my OSGeo account, ishiland,
>>>>> still cannot access the Projects dashboard - it
>>>>> returns a permission error. Could you enable
>>>>> project-author access and confirm the current
>>>>> status of GeoLens’s Community
>>>>> Project application? The listing content and logo
>>>>> are ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2026 at 1:42 PM Ian Shiland
>>>>> <ishiland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jody,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an OSGeo user id now: *ishiland*.
>>>>> Regina sent a mantra through sysadmin, so
>>>>> registration is done and a profile has been
>>>>> created.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2026 at 1:57 PM Ian Shiland
>>>>> <ishiland at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jody, I've requested a mantra from
>>>>> mantra-request at osgeo.org so I can create
>>>>> the account. I'll send the user id as soon
>>>>> as it comes through.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 1:33 PM Jody
>>>>> Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please provide your osgeo user id, and
>>>>> sign into the osgeo.org
>>>>> <http://osgeo.org> website to fill in
>>>>> your profile information. Then I can
>>>>> grant the profile permission to make a
>>>>> new project page.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information see:
>>>>> https://www.osgeo.org/community/getting-started-osgeo/add-a-project/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - -
>>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2026 at 6:33:34 AM, Ian
>>>>> Shiland via Incubator
>>>>> <incubator at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to apply for OSGeo Community
>>>>>> Project status for GeoLens, a
>>>>>> self-hosted geospatial data catalog
>>>>>> and map builder built on PostGIS. It
>>>>>> ingests common vector and raster
>>>>>> formats, serves them through OGC API
>>>>>> - Features, OGC API - Records, STAC
>>>>>> and DCAT, and includes a web map
>>>>>> builder with vector tiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Repository:
>>>>>> https://github.com/geolens-io/geolens (Apache-2.0)
>>>>>> * User documentation:
>>>>>> https://docs.getgeolens.com
>>>>>> * Live demo:
>>>>>> https://demo.getgeolens.com
>>>>>> * Contribution policy:
>>>>>> .github/CONTRIBUTING.md (DCO)
>>>>>> * Code of conduct:
>>>>>> CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md (Contributor
>>>>>> Covenant)
>>>>>> * Issue tracker and discussions:
>>>>>> public on GitHub
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first public release was June
>>>>>> 2026 and the project has shipped
>>>>>> regular tagged releases since
>>>>>> (currently v1.14.1). The repository
>>>>>> has issues and pull requests from
>>>>>> outside contributors, and GeoLibre
>>>>>> (an OpenGeos project) ships a
>>>>>> built-in GeoLens integration that
>>>>>> I've contributed fixes back to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a project listing on osgeo.org
>>>>>> <http://osgeo.org/> needs to exist
>>>>>> before this application, point me at
>>>>>> the right process and I'll take care
>>>>>> of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy to answer any questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Shiland
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>>> My software is free, but my time generally not.
>>> LLMs contribute to global warming and brain rot.
>>> Let's guillotine them! "Ah ! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira !"
>>>
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> http://www.spatialys.com
> My software is free, but my time generally not.
> LLMs contribute to global warming and brain rot.
> Let's guillotine them! "Ah ! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira !"
>
--
http://www.spatialys.com
My software is free, but my time generally not.
LLMs contribute to global warming and brain rot.
Let's guillotine them! "Ah ! ça ira, ça ira, ça ira !"
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