[Industry] development model vs business model

[Karel Charvat]

Hi all,
I would like make some comments from position of  business. I am new in this forum, but I am long time involved as manager in integration of system and development of software (mainly OS}. We are using OSGEO products and we are also trying to put our development towards community, so support OS development (not OSGEO products, there we have only small contribution).
But I have to say, that not many others companies in Czech are doing the same and probably they don’t plan to do the some. I am sure, that most of them respect license, but they use OS in the some way as proprietary software, only without obligation to pay (and this is main reason).
It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade branch, but what is necessary to start build OSGEPO brand. I am afraid, that most of developers and also customers (public servant's} are aware about OSGEO.
And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not way, how to reach community. I am sure, that information about FOSS4GI (Europe) is well reaching community OSGEO community, but not to much outside. So there is necessary, that OSGEO will be active outside of FOSS4GI events, local national European, Global. Only this is the way.
I think  that in Czech Jachym start to do it in good way, but all is long process
Karel


-----Original Message-----
From: industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Dirk Frigne
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Even Rouault; industry at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business model

Even,

On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:
> Le vendredi 22 août 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz Łoskot a écrit :
>> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne <dirk.frigne at geosparc.com> wrote:
>>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:
>>>
>>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:
>>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this snippet from the thread
[...]
>
> If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open source" label (or more 
> specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo software"),  it would be difficult 
> to do that in a ... fair way, because you would have to measure 
> somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo with respect to the value made by using OSGeo software.
The fact something will be difficult does not mean impossible.
The first thing we would have to do is to define why open source (in general - but as far as we are concerned for Geo) is important, and what is "fair" and what is not.
This can be done by listening to people who are using open source for business. Why they choose for OSGeo software, and what they think is fair (or only legal).

I think a good opportunity to start with this is the proposed business track on the next FOSS4G-Europe conference. The idea's for such a business track are being discussed in the thread "when and where" [1].
>From such testimonials we can learn what "we" define as "Fair" and establish guidelines, which when followed allows a business entity, an academic user or an administration to label themselves as respecting these guidelines.
This could be a good first start for this difficult task.

>
> Even
D.
[1]
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-europe/2014-August/000173.html

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Yours sincerely,


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