[Industry] development model vs business model
Camille Acey
camille at boundlessgeo.com
Mon Aug 25 07:21:06 PDT 2014
Hi all,
I've been lurking on this list for a bit, but just wanted to speak up and
mention that my friend and colleague Sumana Harihareswara gave a talk at
2010 OpenSource Bridge entitled "The Second Step: HOWTO encourage open
source work at for-profits
<http://opensourcebridge.org/wiki/2010/The_Second_Step:_HOWTO_encourage_open_source_work_at_for-profits>".
There is still a lot of education that needs to be done in order to empower
and encourage companies that use FLOSS to contribute back to the FLOSS
projects. IMHO, that is where the work needs to be focused . Hopefully
that talk can help you in getting a slide deck and/or other such marketing
and education materials together.
Cheers,
Camille E. Acey
Sales Operations Specialist | Boundless
camille at boundlessgeo.com - 917.460.7197
@boundlessgeo
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:32:15 +0200
From: Peter Baumann <p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>
To: Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>, Karel Charvat
<charvat at ccss.cz>
Cc: industry at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
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extremely important discussion, great to see the pieces come together!
We're getting at it: like any organization acting in the public, OSGeo
needs a
comprehensive, carefully crafted communication strategy, including clear-cut
messages suitable for the target groups (not ourselves!), manifest, eg, in
ready-made slide decks, posters and flyers that can be readily printed &
distributed; plus well-defined, efficient decision processes - ie, the board
needs a mandate to act (& delegate).
my 2 cents,
Peter
PS: I agree that "fair trade open source" is nice, but IMHO we shouldn't
open
yet another challenge while the basic one - effective market communication
- is
still unsolved.
On 08/25/2014 08:48 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
>
> Not so fast, there are already rules, how to speak on behalf of OSGeo.
> Everybody always drops an e-mail to the list, and informs/asks for
permission
> to speak on behalf of OSGeo.
>
> Board members are going to some events, but as already said, we have big
> community of autonomous people and this is our strength.
>
> So, once you would like to have OSGeo presented on some event, ask in the
list
> and talk about it.
>
> What we are missing are some rules regarding our brand and representation
used
> on business cards ... Funny, topic actually
>
> Jachym
>
> Send from cellphone
>
> --
> Jachym Cepicky
> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
> GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp
>
> Give your code freedom with PyWPS -http://pywps.wald.intevation.org
>
> On Aug 25, 2014 2:19 AM, "Karel Charvat" <charvat at ccss.cz
> <mailto:charvat at ccss.cz>> wrote:
>
> I agree with this, but on other side, we need some rules how to do
this. I
> was in past in leadership of other organisation EFITA and now I am in
> leadership of Club of Ossiach. But in any case, there are necessary to
> define rules, how to go, how to speak on behalf of community. It is
not
> good and impossible if for example anybody will speak or make
> presentation on behalf of Community. In such case, it could be
chaos. For
> example to have presentation on conferences or eventually organise
some
> exhibition has to be task of responsible persons (Probably board of
> President), I can promote OSGEO as part of our activities, but I
cannot go
> for example to European Commission and speak on behalf of OSGEO. Every
> time some responsibility is necessary
>
> Karel
>
> *From:*Jachym Cepicky [mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:31 PM
> *To:* Karel Charvat
> *Cc:* industry at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>; Even
> Rouault; dirk.frigne at geosparc.com <mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
> Hi Karel,
>
> As you said, I try to promote OSGeo as much as possible, but it never
is
> one man show. You are registered as OSGeo advocate as well, as well as
> other community members. It was always said, that community is our
biggest
> strength. And this is the case.
>
> Yes, we have to step out of our nich, to reach other communities. But
> Foss4g-europe is about our community, to support it.
>
> Just 2 cents
>
> Jachym
>
> Send from cellphone
>
> --
> Jachym Cepicky
> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
> GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp
>
> Give your code freedom with PyWPS -http://pywps.wald.intevation.org
>
> On Aug 24, 2014 3:43 PM, "Karel Charvat" <charvat at ccss.cz
> <mailto:charvat at ccss.cz>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I would like make some comments from position of business. I am
new in
> this forum, but I am long time involved as manager in integration
of
> system and development of software (mainly OS}. We are using OSGEO
> products and we are also trying to put our development towards
> community, so support OS development (not OSGEO products, there we
> have only small contribution).
> But I have to say, that not many others companies in Czech are
doing
> the same and probably they don't plan to do the some. I am sure,
that
> most of them respect license, but they use OS in the some way as
> proprietary software, only without obligation to pay (and this is
main
> reason).
> It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade branch, but what
is
> necessary to start build OSGEPO brand. I am afraid, that most of
> developers and also customers (public servant's} are aware about
OSGEO.
> And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not way, how to reach
> community. I am sure, that information about FOSS4GI (Europe) is
well
> reaching community OSGEO community, but not to much outside. So
there
> is necessary, that OSGEO will be active outside of FOSS4GI events,
> local national European, Global. Only this is the way.
> I think that in Czech Jachym start to do it in good way, but all
is
> long process
> Karel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> [mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Dirk
Frigne
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM
> To: Even Rouault; industry at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
> Even,
>
> On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:
> > Le vendredi 22 ao?t 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz ?oskot a ?crit :
> >> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne <dirk.frigne at geosparc.com
> <mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com>> wrote:
> >>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:
> >>>
> >>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:
> >>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this snippet from the thread
> [...]
> >
> > If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open source" label (or more
> > specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo software"), it would be
difficult
> > to do that in a ... fair way, because you would have to measure
> > somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo with respect to the
> value made by using OSGeo software.
> The fact something will be difficult does not mean impossible.
> The first thing we would have to do is to define why open source
(in
> general - but as far as we are concerned for Geo) is important,
and
> what is "fair" and what is not.
> This can be done by listening to people who are using open source
for
> business. Why they choose for OSGeo software, and what they think
is
> fair (or only legal).
>
> I think a good opportunity to start with this is the proposed
business
> track on the next FOSS4G-Europe conference. The idea's for such a
> business track are being discussed in the thread "when and where"
[1].
> From such testimonials we can learn what "we" define as "Fair" and
> establish guidelines, which when followed allows a business
entity, an
> academic user or an administration to label themselves as
respecting
> these guidelines.
> This could be a good first start for this difficult task.
>
> >
> > Even
> D.
> [1]
>
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-europe/2014-August/000173.html
>
> --
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> ir. Dirk Frigne
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>
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