[Industry] development model vs business model
Dirk Frigne
dirk.frigne at geosparc.com
Wed Aug 27 01:19:45 PDT 2014
Karel,
I didn't mean that these available presentations should only be used on
FOSS4G events.
I suggested that the material in these presentations can be used by all
the members of OSGeo to be used in business events and talks to spread
the ideas of OSGeo on a larger scale.
Also to the decision makers.
This in respons to your remark there could be chaos, and you didn't know
how to speak on behalf of the community. There is material that has been
discussed by the OSGeo community and can be used for such cases.
My 2c
D.
On 27-08-14 07:17, Karel Charvat wrote:
>
> Hi Dirk,
>
> Yes, it is true, But take into consideration, that most of IT company
> managers and also public servants taking decision about moneys are not
> participating on this events.
>
> So probably this presentation are not target on important community
>
> Karel
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Dirk Frigne [mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 8:41 AM
> *To:* Karel Charvat
> *Cc:* industry at lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
>
>
> Karel,
>
> What you say is correct. But there are presentations of OSGeo,
> presented by the president on many FOSS4G conferences. There is also a
> presentation about the Live-DVD, explaining in short the different
> projects, and there is of cource the website (which is a wiki style),
> where thoughts and decisions and rules are formulated.
>
> Given this, it is possible for me to represent and talk about OSGeo on
> many occasions and explain the mission. Of course to speak on behalf,
> as in any company or organisation , you need be member of the board,
> or a mandate to do so.
>
> D.
>
> On 25-08-14 02:19, Karel Charvat wrote:
>
> I agree with this, but on other side, we need some rules how to do
> this. I was in past in leadership of other organisation EFITA and
> now I am in leadership of Club of Ossiach. But in any case, there
> are necessary to define rules, how to go, how to speak on behalf
> of community. It is not good and impossible if for example
> anybody will speak or make presentation on behalf of Community. In
> such case, it could be chaos. For example to have presentation on
> conferences or eventually organise some exhibition has to be task
> of responsible persons (Probably board of President), I can
> promote OSGEO as part of our activities, but I cannot go for
> example to European Commission and speak on behalf of OSGEO. Every
> time some responsibility is necessary
>
> Karel
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Jachym Cepicky [mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:31 PM
> *To:* Karel Charvat
> *Cc:* industry at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>;
> Even Rouault; dirk.frigne at geosparc.com
> <mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
>
>
> Hi Karel,
>
> As you said, I try to promote OSGeo as much as possible, but it
> never is one man show. You are registered as OSGeo advocate as
> well, as well as other community members. It was always said, that
> community is our biggest strength. And this is the case.
>
> Yes, we have to step out of our nich, to reach other communities.
> But Foss4g-europe is about our community, to support it.
>
> Just 2 cents
>
> Jachym
>
> Send from cellphone
>
> --
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> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
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>
> Give your code freedom with PyWPS -http://pywps.wald.intevation.org
>
> On Aug 24, 2014 3:43 PM, "Karel Charvat" <charvat at ccss.cz
> <mailto:charvat at ccss.cz>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I would like make some comments from position of business. I
> am new in this forum, but I am long time involved as manager
> in integration of system and development of software (mainly
> OS}. We are using OSGEO products and we are also trying to put
> our development towards community, so support OS development
> (not OSGEO products, there we have only small contribution).
> But I have to say, that not many others companies in Czech are
> doing the same and probably they don’t plan to do the some. I
> am sure, that most of them respect license, but they use OS in
> the some way as proprietary software, only without obligation
> to pay (and this is main reason).
> It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade branch, but
> what is necessary to start build OSGEPO brand. I am afraid,
> that most of developers and also customers (public servant's}
> are aware about OSGEO.
> And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not way, how to
> reach community. I am sure, that information about FOSS4GI
> (Europe) is well reaching community OSGEO community, but not
> to much outside. So there is necessary, that OSGEO will be
> active outside of FOSS4GI events, local national European,
> Global. Only this is the way.
> I think that in Czech Jachym start to do it in good way, but
> all is long process
> Karel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> [mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of Dirk
> Frigne
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM
> To: Even Rouault; industry at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
> Even,
>
> On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:
> > Le vendredi 22 août 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz Łoskot a écrit :
> >> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne
> <dirk.frigne at geosparc.com <mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com>>
> wrote:
> >>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:
> >>>
> >>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:
> >>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this snippet from the thread
> [...]
> >
> > If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open source" label (or more
> > specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo software"), it would be
> difficult
> > to do that in a ... fair way, because you would have to measure
> > somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo with respect to
> the value made by using OSGeo software.
> The fact something will be difficult does not mean impossible.
> The first thing we would have to do is to define why open
> source (in general - but as far as we are concerned for Geo)
> is important, and what is "fair" and what is not.
> This can be done by listening to people who are using open
> source for business. Why they choose for OSGeo software, and
> what they think is fair (or only legal).
>
> I think a good opportunity to start with this is the proposed
> business track on the next FOSS4G-Europe conference. The
> idea's for such a business track are being discussed in the
> thread "when and where" [1].
> From such testimonials we can learn what "we" define as "Fair"
> and establish guidelines, which when followed allows a
> business entity, an academic user or an administration to
> label themselves as respecting these guidelines.
> This could be a good first start for this difficult task.
>
> >
> > Even
> D.
> [1]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-europe/2014-August/000173.html
>
> --
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> ir. Dirk Frigne
> CEO
>
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> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> ir. Dirk Frigne
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Yours sincerely,
ir. Dirk Frigne
CEO
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