[Industry] development model vs business model
Dirk Frigne
dirk.frigne at geosparc.com
Fri Aug 29 02:58:54 PDT 2014
Hi Karel,
OSGeo already has a page to do that synchronisation. You only have to
use it.
you can submit new events: http://www.osgeo.org/events/submit_events
you can look up upcoming events here:
http://www.osgeo.org/event/2014/09/01/month/all/all/1
D. :-)
On 29-08-14 06:48, Karel Charvat wrote:
>
> Hu Dirk,
>
> I think, that this require much more synchronisation. For example to
> know, who is planning to go present on some event etc
>
> Karel
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Dirk Frigne [mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:20 AM
> *To:* Karel Charvat
> *Cc:* managementsupport at geosparc.com; industry at lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
>
>
> Karel,
>
> I didn't mean that these available presentations should only be used
> on FOSS4G events.
> I suggested that the material in these presentations can be used by
> all the members of OSGeo to be used in business events and talks to
> spread the ideas of OSGeo on a larger scale.
> Also to the decision makers.
>
> This in respons to your remark there could be chaos, and you didn't
> know how to speak on behalf of the community. There is material that
> has been discussed by the OSGeo community and can be used for such cases.
>
> My 2c
> D.
>
> On 27-08-14 07:17, Karel Charvat wrote:
>
> Hi Dirk,
>
> Yes, it is true, But take into consideration, that most of IT
> company managers and also public servants taking decision about
> moneys are not participating on this events.
>
> So probably this presentation are not target on important community
>
> Karel
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Dirk Frigne [mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 25, 2014 8:41 AM
> *To:* Karel Charvat
> *Cc:* industry at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
>
>
> Karel,
>
> What you say is correct. But there are presentations of OSGeo,
> presented by the president on many FOSS4G conferences. There is
> also a presentation about the Live-DVD, explaining in short the
> different projects, and there is of cource the website (which is a
> wiki style), where thoughts and decisions and rules are formulated.
>
> Given this, it is possible for me to represent and talk about
> OSGeo on many occasions and explain the mission. Of course to
> speak on behalf, as in any company or organisation , you need be
> member of the board, or a mandate to do so.
>
> D.
>
> On 25-08-14 02:19, Karel Charvat wrote:
>
> I agree with this, but on other side, we need some rules how
> to do this. I was in past in leadership of other organisation
> EFITA and now I am in leadership of Club of Ossiach. But in
> any case, there are necessary to define rules, how to go, how
> to speak on behalf of community. It is not good and impossible
> if for example anybody will speak or make presentation on
> behalf of Community. In such case, it could be chaos. For
> example to have presentation on conferences or eventually
> organise some exhibition has to be task of responsible persons
> (Probably board of President), I can promote OSGEO as part of
> our activities, but I cannot go for example to European
> Commission and speak on behalf of OSGEO. Every time some
> responsibility is necessary
>
> Karel
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*Jachym Cepicky [mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:31 PM
> *To:* Karel Charvat
> *Cc:* industry at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>; Even Rouault;
> dirk.frigne at geosparc.com <mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
>
>
> Hi Karel,
>
> As you said, I try to promote OSGeo as much as possible, but
> it never is one man show. You are registered as OSGeo advocate
> as well, as well as other community members. It was always
> said, that community is our biggest strength. And this is the
> case.
>
> Yes, we have to step out of our nich, to reach other
> communities. But Foss4g-europe is about our community, to
> support it.
>
> Just 2 cents
>
> Jachym
>
> Send from cellphone
>
> --
> Jachym Cepicky
> e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
> GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp
>
> Give your code freedom with PyWPS
> -http://pywps.wald.intevation.org
>
> On Aug 24, 2014 3:43 PM, "Karel Charvat" <charvat at ccss.cz
> <mailto:charvat at ccss.cz>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I would like make some comments from position of
> business. I am new in this forum, but I am long time
> involved as manager in integration of system and
> development of software (mainly OS}. We are using OSGEO
> products and we are also trying to put our development
> towards community, so support OS development (not OSGEO
> products, there we have only small contribution).
> But I have to say, that not many others companies in Czech
> are doing the same and probably they don’t plan to do the
> some. I am sure, that most of them respect license, but
> they use OS in the some way as proprietary software, only
> without obligation to pay (and this is main reason).
> It is nice idea to start promote FOSS Fair trade branch,
> but what is necessary to start build OSGEPO brand. I am
> afraid, that most of developers and also customers (public
> servant's} are aware about OSGEO.
> And FOSS4GI event (global or European) are not way, how to
> reach community. I am sure, that information about FOSS4GI
> (Europe) is well reaching community OSGEO community, but
> not to much outside. So there is necessary, that OSGEO
> will be active outside of FOSS4GI events, local national
> European, Global. Only this is the way.
> I think that in Czech Jachym start to do it in good way,
> but all is long process
> Karel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> [mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] On Behalf Of
> Dirk Frigne
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:28 AM
> To: Even Rouault; industry at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:industry at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Industry] development model vs business model
>
> Even,
>
> On 22-08-14 21:31, Even Rouault wrote:
> > Le vendredi 22 août 2014 15:45:45, Mateusz Łoskot a écrit :
> >> On 22 August 2014 14:28, Dirk Frigne
> <dirk.frigne at geosparc.com
> <mailto:dirk.frigne at geosparc.com>> wrote:
> >>> reacting on the comments of Mateusz:
> >>>
> >>> On 22-08-14 12:03, Dirk Frigne wrote:
> >>>> Sorry for crossposting, but this snippet from the thread
> [...]
> >
> > If we were to deliver a "Fair trade open source" label
> (or more
> > specifically "Fair trade of OSGeo software"), it would
> be difficult
> > to do that in a ... fair way, because you would have to
> measure
> > somehow the value contributed back to OSGeo with respect
> to the value made by using OSGeo software.
> The fact something will be difficult does not mean impossible.
> The first thing we would have to do is to define why open
> source (in general - but as far as we are concerned for
> Geo) is important, and what is "fair" and what is not.
> This can be done by listening to people who are using open
> source for business. Why they choose for OSGeo software,
> and what they think is fair (or only legal).
>
> I think a good opportunity to start with this is the
> proposed business track on the next FOSS4G-Europe
> conference. The idea's for such a business track are being
> discussed in the thread "when and where" [1].
> From such testimonials we can learn what "we" define as
> "Fair" and establish guidelines, which when followed
> allows a business entity, an academic user or an
> administration to label themselves as respecting these
> guidelines.
> This could be a good first start for this difficult task.
>
> >
> > Even
> D.
> [1]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-europe/2014-August/000173.html
>
> --
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> ir. Dirk Frigne
> CEO
>
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>
>
>
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> ir. Dirk Frigne
>
> CEO
>
>
>
> Geosparc n.v.
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> Tel: +32 9 236 60 18
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>
> --
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> ir. Dirk Frigne
> CEO
>
> Geosparc n.v.
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> B-9030 Ghent
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