[Lexicon] Buzz in writing community about GeoLexicon

Fri Jul 31 00:29:26 PDT 2020

Dear Reese and Cameron,

I follow your emails about geoLexicon with great interest.
To be honest, I don't feel very close to what you have in mind but I  
try to be as close as I can. The truth is that I am interested in  
supporting this effort.
As Chief Editor of GeoForAll Newsletter, I started gathering  
abbreviations of GIS and Remote Sensing terminology almost six years  
ago, from the very first issue of our Newsletter and I continue this  
effort until today, with the help of some members of GeoForAll. I  
started with 13 abbreviations in the first issue and now, in the last  
issue, there are 118 abbreviations, updated very frequently.
Many of them are already used in geolexica  
(https://osgeodev.geolexica.org/concepts/) and I hope that more will  
be used in the future.
 From my part, I will keep updating this list and I will be happy to  
help the geoLexicon Committee, if you think that I can give some help.

Thank you very much for your work
Nikos Lambrinos

Παραθέτοντας από Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>:

> +lexicon at lists.osgeo.org <lexicon at lists.osgeo.org>, +Osgeolive
> <osgeolive at lists.osgeo.org>, +Astrid Emde <astrid_emde at osgeo.org>  +Alessa
> Rock <arock at saltstack.com>  (Looping in public list with Reese's
> permission).
>
> Hi Reese,
> This is really great feedback, and I think it frames key problems to solve
> within our next phase of the geolexicon community.
>
> I think part of what we need to solve is a process for updating terms which
> we can pass to projects and foundations to follow.
> With regards to reaching out to communities, I think tapping into the
> OSGeoLive communication pipeline to projects will be very helpful there.
> I'm hoping Astrid, CCed, who has been doing this of late will be able to
> help.
>
> There is a central role required for a community manager. Alessa Rock, a
> tech writing experienced with open source communities, has expressed an
> interest in this and I think would be great at it.
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 10:57, Reese W. Plews <rplews at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hello Cameron, very nice to hear from you. sounds like your new
>> position at google is working out well for you. very happy for you.
>>
>> besides my own projects, i have been busy as editor with another ISO
>> project these past couple of months and also with the release of an
>> update to the TC211 MLGT which is now available in geolexica.
>>
>> we had one meeting of the lexicon group to discuss the abbreviated
>> terms. there were a few people on the call. i tried to make some
>> categorizations but i wondered if that was the best way. i dont think
>> the google docs idea is working well on an open mail list. it could be
>> one issue why no one has participated much. Prof. Stubkjær had a
>> couple of observations and wanted to address some of those issues
>> before he worked on the file. and since i did not work on the file
>> either, nothing has really happened.  after the summer i will try and
>> get the abbreviated terms finished. i have talked with Ron about how
>> to support those in geolexica.
>>
>> however, those are just a file of abbreviated terms and acronyms.
>> there are a very small number of terms in that list which i separated
>> out early on.
>>
>> to me the real issue that we discussed in one of our telecons was that
>> i just do not understand how terms (either currently in use or new)
>> will be submitted to the group for any management or discussion. the
>> group cannot really go out and look for terms. if the project teams
>> who are working on their own documentation are not extracting out
>> those term/def entries then it seems quite difficult to populate a
>> term registry. of course osgeo can/should use term/def entries from
>> other groups but, in the case of tc211's terminology, there are a lot
>> of terms that osgeo needs which are not going to be there. ogc will
>> have, in my understanding, a wider set of terms that osgeo can
>> probably use.
>>
>> perhaps the document link you sent explains some ways how those terms
>> can be picked up, perhaps the people doing technical writing for osgeo
>> projects will do that, i am not sure how that will work.  the issue
>> about how terms will come into the group is the biggest issue for me
>> in really understanding how to move forward for osgeo. at least from
>> my work in tc211 i dont think the lexicon group should be the "writers
>> group" however i do understand there is a need to work together, if
>> there was such a group of writers. i can formulate, manage, and
>> discuss terminology entries but i am not skilled at creating complete
>> documentation for a software project...
>>
>> the discussion from Rob is also very fascinating. i must admit so much
>> of it i do not understand. yet if there are no terms for the osgeo
>> group to manage i dont see how the linkages will be helpful for
>> osgeo... of course i see how they will be helpful for ogc and
>> hopefully one day the iso terms will be able to have such linkages...i
>> would hope everything is able to have some cross-relationships, but
>> again, i dont understand what it takes to get there.
>>
>> i am sure you know but i will mention that tc211 members are now
>> voting to adopt a resolution at accepts OSGeo's request to be a
>> liaison to TC211. i expect the resolution ballot to pass. i think this
>> is an important step at least for having osgeo members learn more
>> about what tc211 is doing and for our terminology group will hopefully
>> be able to get these osgeo members more engaged in that group. it also
>> allows me to share things with osgeo members through the liaison
>> agreement. i hope there will be a couple of members from osgeo who are
>> willing to be liaisons to tc211.
>>
>> i am looking forward to your "manifesto," and hope it will answer the
>> question about how terminology entries will come into the lexicon
>> group.  i hope after reading, some of the other lexicon list members
>> will also want to be involved more with the group.
>>
>> best regards,
>>
>> reese
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 6:40 AM Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ron, Reese, Rob,
>> > A quick heads up that I'm seeing solid interest within The Good Docs
>> Project writing community around Term management, and I'm expecting a few
>> motivated and competent writing volunteers are about to come join the
>> GeoLexicon project within the next few weeks.
>> >
>> > Also, I'm now working as a tech writer at Google, and have been
>> discussing and getting early traction around a wide range of tech writing
>> patterns and anti-patterns, along with tasks to address these. It is based
>> around this essay, of which lexicon management is one topic.
>> >
>> > There is a time window between now and the end of this year when there
>> will be a doc-blitz effort aligned with Google's Season of Docs where we
>> have an opportunity to push a Geolexicon pilot forward. I'm hoping you
>> might be in a position to be part of it?
>> >
>> > More to come on the public email list soon.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cameron Shorter
>> > Technical Writer, Google
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> Cameron Shorter
> Technical Writer, Google

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