[Live-demo] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2009 to reach those who cannot attend

Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) tmitchell at osgeo.org
Thu Aug 6 03:15:50 EDT 2009 

Thanks Stefan - is anyone currently planning to re-run these instructions
to create a disk for 2009 event?  Or can others, e.g. Massimo, feel free
to carry on with their approach?

Tyler

> Hey!
>
> My note on creating a LiveDVD from an exisiting Ubuntu/Xubuntu
> installation can be found here:
>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Creating_a_Live_GIS_DISC_from_scratch
>
> If you have any questions, just send me a mail.
>
> cheers,
> stefan
>
> Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Massimo,
>> I'm very impressed with how far you seem to have gone with the
>> development of a live-dvd, and am hopeful that you will be interested to
>> use your expertise to craft the foss4g liveDVD.
>>
>> Have you had a look at the Arramagong LiveDVD yet. At the moment, this
>> is the most recent LiveDVD which has been created, and includes a number
>> of the projects not packaged yet. In particular, a number of the Java
>> projects like GeoServer.
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Arramagong_Links
>>
>> Stefan,
>> I think you created a wiki somewhere explaining what was on the
>> Arramagong LiveDVD and how to build it, but I can't put my fingers on
>> it. Can you please point us in the right direction.
>>
>> Massimo Di Stefano wrote:
>>> I tried to answer this mail ..
>>>
>>> apologize me if it will be a bit confused and for any my mistake.
>>>
>>> i'm newbie in live-dvd preparation so maybe is possible i'm ignoring
>>> something
>>> but i hope you can point me on the right direction to follow.
>>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno 01/ago/09, alle ore 13:28, Cameron Shorter ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Maning, Massimo, Alex, Ravi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for your kinds offers of help with the LiveDVD. This is
>>>> greatly appreciated, will be very valuable, and will also make space
>>>> for the overly committed FOSS4G local organising committee to focus
>>>> on the other aspects of the FOSS4G conference.
>>>>
>>>> As I see it, this is what needs to be done:
>>>> 1. Anyone who is interested, please subscribe to the live-dvd email
>>>> list, where we can continue the rest of this discussion.
>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
>>> i'm already subscribed to the list,
>>> i read the previouse topic and i agree that the main distro to be used
>>> must be a debian/debian-based distro.
>>>
>>> as live-builder system, i'm tring the remastersys tool
>>> i find it really complete and works fine on ubuntu and debian but need
>>> to be hacked to works on sidux.
>>> (the best solution for me is to have a custom script to produce a
>>> live.iso from an installed linux-distro based on sidux, i prefer to
>>> chose sidux beacouse it has updated packages (it include the
>>> debian-gis repository, and beacouse has an updated kernel and some
>>> virtualizzation .. is the only distro that works fine on my HW
>>> "macbook pro 15'' 2,2 with ati 1600 video card))
>>>
>>>> The wiki associated with this project is at:
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Live_DVD
>>>> and
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
>>> i tried to describe the procedure i'm using to build some gis SW on
>>> sidux installing the svn version on the osgeo wiki page (search for
>>> gfoss.it in the search tool)
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with you that for a live projet we need to use the debian-gis
>>>
>>> however i prefer to have the last version installed from source. (at
>>> least for the main app osgeo project)
>>>
>>> why? :
>>>
>>> building from source we'll have all the dev-package installed in the
>>> live
>>>
>>> this implies that a live-dvd user can choose to install the live on
>>> its hard-drive  (install option is handled by remastersys)
>>> and having all the dependencies already installed will simplify the
>>> life to an user that want update to the latest version for the
>>> source-installed gis app
>>>
>>> (this will guarantee a long life for the live ptroject and avoid
>>> intense dependence from repository)
>>>
>>> obviously is not my intent to build all from source, but only the main
>>> osgeo project like :
>>> Gdal, Grass, Ossim, Qgis, ...+?
>>>
>>>> 2. We need someone who can continually keep track of the status of
>>>> the LiveDVD. Determine what it contains, what package versions are on
>>>> it, how much space is being used, what should and should not be on it
>>>> etc.
>>>> This data should be kept up to date in this wiki:
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Live_DVD
>>> i done a list of apt-get-able packages related to scientiphic and
>>> geographics software, icluding python dependencies for qgis plug-in
>>> R package to handle spatial data, other sw more or less related to
>>> academic/sciantific world
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2b. Revise the LiveDVD schedule, and then track to it.
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Schedule
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3. The LiveDVD needs to be tested, and make sure that the current,
>>>> and any future packages all work together without impacting each
>>>> other. Any issues found need to be tracked in the issue tracker.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Someone needs to contact all interested parties for the LiveDVD,
>>>> and encourage them to provide data or software, or configurations,
>>>> etc for the LiveDVD. This includes:
>>>> * Workshop and tutorial authors who may want to hand out a DVD at the
>>>> conference.
>>>> * OSGeo projects already on the LiveDVD, or who want to get on the DVD
>>>> * UbuntuGIS, DebianGIS, GISVM, OSGeo4W packaging projects, which have
>>>> significant synergies with the LiveDVD
>>>> * And any other people who want to help out.
>>> tring variouse live-dvd build  i had some different problems on
>>> different distro :
>>>
>>> ubuntu 9.04 :
>>>
>>> problem to build ossim (mailed the dev list about my issue)
>>> some problems with pyQwt (use python 2.5 while the python used as
>>> default is 2.6)
>>>
>>> debian+ubuntu :
>>>
>>> kernel minor than 2.6.30 has proble to get a working driver on mac
>>> laptop using ati video card.
>>> again on generic hardware i need to manually install the video driver
>>> to enable a full 3d environment
>>>
>>> Sidux :
>>>
>>> the driver installed as default works well on mac laptop and the 3d
>>> environment work out of box on different hardware
>>> whitout need to install additional drivers
>>> but the problem is :
>>>
>>> using remastersys (script dedicated to debian and ubuntu distro) i
>>> need to hack the script to figure out a kernel module problems :
>>> remastersys try to find a pakage "squashfs-module" that on sidux is
>>> included in the kernel .. so remastersys fail to check the module
>>> presence (but it exists)
>>> to figure out this problem i commented out the relative "if statment"
>>> to check the module presence.
>>> after this littlle hack i have remastersys "semi-working" on sidux too.
>>> the live-dvd produced has a working gis software (also 3d with
>>> ossimplanet) but unluky the script fails to configure the network
>>> (resolvconf problems)
>>> and it has missed the "install to hd" tools.
>>> (i'm subsribed to the remastersys forum and i'm tring to get support
>>> about this problem)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> in short word :
>>>
>>> using debian or ubuntu i'm not able to have a really platform
>>> independent 3d environment but i have an installable live-dvd
>>>
>>> while on sidux i have all working in live-mode except to the
>>> resolvconf-dhcp problem (i'll meet a server-mantainers in the next
>>> days to face out this problem)
>>>
>>> again the live is not yet installable on HD (i'm tring to solve this
>>> on the remastersys forum).
>>>
>>>
>>>> 5. Add what ever new packages, linux software, windows installers,
>>>> etc to the LiveDVD. This is the technical grunt work.
>>>> Note that the packaging projects like DebianGIS and UbuntuGIS are
>>>> quite robust, and have been very helpful in getting new people
>>>> started with packaging, and many of these people are also on the
>>>> LiveDVD email list.
>>> i've discuss about the osgeo live-dvd project on our local-chapter
>>> list, we'll be avaiable to produce a local dataset and localized
>>> documents.
>>>
>>> my idea is to use as example data a common dataset based on global
>>> data + a localized dataset based on local-free data if avaiable.
>>> however we need a common tutorial/how-to workshop files to follow as
>>> guide-line for the local chapters.
>>>
>>>
>>> just a littel consideration maybe is is obviouse,
>>> i'm tring the variouse .iso produced and is my idea that the live.iso
>>> works really more fast if it is booted in a virtualbox machine
>>> i do some test on the live.iso, i find that running it in a VirtualBox
>>> Machine,  it is really fast rather than a boot from cd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks to read this long-confuse mail and for any feedback.
>>>
>>> Massimo.
>>>
>>>> Welcome aboard.
>>>> I suggest that any volunteers join the live-demo email list, and
>>>> respond to this email suggesting how you might want to help.
>>>> Cameron Shorter, FOSS4G chair.
>>>>
>>>> Ravi wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> volunteer:
>>>>> Happy to note a good discussion.
>>>>> I can help in seeing the draft of workshops/Labs that deal with
>>>>> Vector-GIS and GIS that focuses on Geoscience. Can help in advising
>>>>> where necessary, to tune the material such that those multitudes not
>>>>> attending the event can equally use the material with ease.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Ravi Kumar
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Alex Borrell <borrellalex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Alex Borrell <borrellalex at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2009 to reach those who cannot
>>>>>> attend
>>>>>> To: "OSGeo Discussions" <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 8:12 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:55 AM,
>>>>>> Massimo Di Stefano <massimodisasha at yahoo.it>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm  working on a live dvd project based on GIS
>>>>>> software,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm avaiable for any help on the dvd creation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ciao,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Massimo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il giorno 31/lug/09, alle ore 11:11, Cameron Shorter ha
>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ravi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you are so right, we do need to collect as much of the
>>>>>> material from the FOSS4G conference as we can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One way we hope to facilitate this has been to give every
>>>>>> attendee a LiveDVD which can be populated with all the
>>>>>> material from the workshops. This means that if workshop
>>>>>> presenters can get their data onto the DVD, then they know
>>>>>> all attendees will receive it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we have budget for the LiveDVD. We have an old version
>>>>>> of the LiveDVD (based on FOSS4G 2008). What we need to
>>>>>> continue through to completion is to have someone who will
>>>>>> coordinate the compiling of the DVD.  This is primarily a
>>>>>> project management role, keeping track of what is on the DVD
>>>>>> and what should be on it, contacting workshop authors, and
>>>>>> project leads and helping them get their projects onto the
>>>>>> DVD etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sound like you? It would be an incredibly valuable
>>>>>> contribution to FOSS4G and the greater OSGeo community at
>>>>>> large.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are all kind thoughts. Would you consider
>>>>>> volunteering to help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> put together the conference live DVD? You can see an
>>>>>> example from
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FOSS4G2008 etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jody
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:20 AM, <ravivundavalli at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FOSS4G every year is a keenly followed event. Many await
>>>>>> the publication of material on the website eagerly such that
>>>>>> they can follow labs, workshops and presentations of
>>>>>> choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the present organisers may please request those
>>>>>> especially conducting labs/workshops to keep in mind the
>>>>>> multitudes who browse them through the internet can have
>>>>>> equal benefit. This can be achieved my keeping on the
>>>>>> internet for download
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. All the binaries that are required for the exercise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. All the data that are required for the exercise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. All the printed material provided for the exercise
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. All the other material provided to the attendees, CD or
>>>>>> DVD etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that most of it is done each time, except for a few
>>>>>> instances
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example:'Download data from the CD provided', is
>>>>>> given in the lab pdf.. but the data is not given for
>>>>>> download...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example:'Run the pg_setenv.bat file first,'
>>>>>> (FOSS4G2007).. even on date a nice archive is available from
>>>>>> the FOSS4G2007 website, data, text etc..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but, the pg_setenv.bat, not there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This may be trivial for experts, but for those learning
>>>>>> through the internet and depending on 'Discuss
>>>>>> Lists', it will be a roadblock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ravi Kumar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Massimo is right, there are lots of people who can
>>>>>> not attend FOSSG4, but would like to learn
>>>>>> through Internet the workshops and conferences. As it is a
>>>>>> fast growing field, the sooner the better. Please,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if there is a way to help this happen, let me know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am from Mexico, so if there is some need for spanish
>>>>>> translation, or any other work I'll be glad to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex Borrell
>>>>>>
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