[Live-demo] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2009 to reach those who cannot attend

Stefan Hansen stefan.hansen at lisasoft.com
Sun Aug 2 19:55:49 EDT 2009 

Hey!

My note on creating a LiveDVD from an exisiting Ubuntu/Xubuntu
installation can be found here:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Creating_a_Live_GIS_DISC_from_scratch

If you have any questions, just send me a mail.

cheers,
stefan

Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Massimo,
> I'm very impressed with how far you seem to have gone with the
> development of a live-dvd, and am hopeful that you will be interested to
> use your expertise to craft the foss4g liveDVD.
>
> Have you had a look at the Arramagong LiveDVD yet. At the moment, this
> is the most recent LiveDVD which has been created, and includes a number
> of the projects not packaged yet. In particular, a number of the Java
> projects like GeoServer.
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Arramagong_Links
>
> Stefan,
> I think you created a wiki somewhere explaining what was on the
> Arramagong LiveDVD and how to build it, but I can't put my fingers on
> it. Can you please point us in the right direction.
>
> Massimo Di Stefano wrote:
>> I tried to answer this mail ..
>>
>> apologize me if it will be a bit confused and for any my mistake.
>>
>> i'm newbie in live-dvd preparation so maybe is possible i'm ignoring
>> something
>> but i hope you can point me on the right direction to follow.
>>
>>
>> Il giorno 01/ago/09, alle ore 13:28, Cameron Shorter ha scritto:
>>
>>> Maning, Massimo, Alex, Ravi,
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your kinds offers of help with the LiveDVD. This is
>>> greatly appreciated, will be very valuable, and will also make space
>>> for the overly committed FOSS4G local organising committee to focus
>>> on the other aspects of the FOSS4G conference.
>>>
>>> As I see it, this is what needs to be done:
>>> 1. Anyone who is interested, please subscribe to the live-dvd email
>>> list, where we can continue the rest of this discussion.
>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
>> i'm already subscribed to the list,
>> i read the previouse topic and i agree that the main distro to be used
>> must be a debian/debian-based distro.
>>
>> as live-builder system, i'm tring the remastersys tool
>> i find it really complete and works fine on ubuntu and debian but need
>> to be hacked to works on sidux.
>> (the best solution for me is to have a custom script to produce a
>> live.iso from an installed linux-distro based on sidux, i prefer to
>> chose sidux beacouse it has updated packages (it include the
>> debian-gis repository, and beacouse has an updated kernel and some
>> virtualizzation .. is the only distro that works fine on my HW
>> "macbook pro 15'' 2,2 with ati 1600 video card))
>>
>>> The wiki associated with this project is at:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Live_DVD
>>> and
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
>> i tried to describe the procedure i'm using to build some gis SW on
>> sidux installing the svn version on the osgeo wiki page (search for
>> gfoss.it in the search tool)
>>
>>
>> I agree with you that for a live projet we need to use the debian-gis
>>
>> however i prefer to have the last version installed from source. (at
>> least for the main app osgeo project)
>>
>> why? :
>>
>> building from source we'll have all the dev-package installed in the live
>>
>> this implies that a live-dvd user can choose to install the live on
>> its hard-drive  (install option is handled by remastersys)
>> and having all the dependencies already installed will simplify the
>> life to an user that want update to the latest version for the
>> source-installed gis app
>>
>> (this will guarantee a long life for the live ptroject and avoid
>> intense dependence from repository)
>>
>> obviously is not my intent to build all from source, but only the main
>> osgeo project like :
>> Gdal, Grass, Ossim, Qgis, ...+?
>>
>>> 2. We need someone who can continually keep track of the status of
>>> the LiveDVD. Determine what it contains, what package versions are on
>>> it, how much space is being used, what should and should not be on it
>>> etc.
>>> This data should be kept up to date in this wiki:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Live_DVD
>> i done a list of apt-get-able packages related to scientiphic and
>> geographics software, icluding python dependencies for qgis plug-in
>> R package to handle spatial data, other sw more or less related to
>> academic/sciantific world
>>
>>
>>> 2b. Revise the LiveDVD schedule, and then track to it.
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Schedule
>>
>>
>>
>>> 3. The LiveDVD needs to be tested, and make sure that the current,
>>> and any future packages all work together without impacting each
>>> other. Any issues found need to be tracked in the issue tracker.
>>>
>>> 4. Someone needs to contact all interested parties for the LiveDVD,
>>> and encourage them to provide data or software, or configurations,
>>> etc for the LiveDVD. This includes:
>>> * Workshop and tutorial authors who may want to hand out a DVD at the
>>> conference.
>>> * OSGeo projects already on the LiveDVD, or who want to get on the DVD
>>> * UbuntuGIS, DebianGIS, GISVM, OSGeo4W packaging projects, which have
>>> significant synergies with the LiveDVD
>>> * And any other people who want to help out.
>> tring variouse live-dvd build  i had some different problems on
>> different distro :
>>
>> ubuntu 9.04 :
>>
>> problem to build ossim (mailed the dev list about my issue)
>> some problems with pyQwt (use python 2.5 while the python used as
>> default is 2.6)
>>
>> debian+ubuntu :
>>
>> kernel minor than 2.6.30 has proble to get a working driver on mac
>> laptop using ati video card.
>> again on generic hardware i need to manually install the video driver
>> to enable a full 3d environment
>>
>> Sidux :
>>
>> the driver installed as default works well on mac laptop and the 3d
>> environment work out of box on different hardware
>> whitout need to install additional drivers
>> but the problem is :
>>
>> using remastersys (script dedicated to debian and ubuntu distro) i
>> need to hack the script to figure out a kernel module problems :
>> remastersys try to find a pakage "squashfs-module" that on sidux is
>> included in the kernel .. so remastersys fail to check the module
>> presence (but it exists)
>> to figure out this problem i commented out the relative "if statment"
>> to check the module presence.
>> after this littlle hack i have remastersys "semi-working" on sidux too.
>> the live-dvd produced has a working gis software (also 3d with
>> ossimplanet) but unluky the script fails to configure the network
>> (resolvconf problems)
>> and it has missed the "install to hd" tools.
>> (i'm subsribed to the remastersys forum and i'm tring to get support
>> about this problem)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> in short word :
>>
>> using debian or ubuntu i'm not able to have a really platform
>> independent 3d environment but i have an installable live-dvd
>>
>> while on sidux i have all working in live-mode except to the
>> resolvconf-dhcp problem (i'll meet a server-mantainers in the next
>> days to face out this problem)
>>
>> again the live is not yet installable on HD (i'm tring to solve this
>> on the remastersys forum).
>>
>>
>>> 5. Add what ever new packages, linux software, windows installers,
>>> etc to the LiveDVD. This is the technical grunt work.
>>> Note that the packaging projects like DebianGIS and UbuntuGIS are
>>> quite robust, and have been very helpful in getting new people
>>> started with packaging, and many of these people are also on the
>>> LiveDVD email list.
>> i've discuss about the osgeo live-dvd project on our local-chapter
>> list, we'll be avaiable to produce a local dataset and localized
>> documents.
>>
>> my idea is to use as example data a common dataset based on global
>> data + a localized dataset based on local-free data if avaiable.
>> however we need a common tutorial/how-to workshop files to follow as
>> guide-line for the local chapters.
>>
>>
>> just a littel consideration maybe is is obviouse,
>> i'm tring the variouse .iso produced and is my idea that the live.iso
>> works really more fast if it is booted in a virtualbox machine
>> i do some test on the live.iso, i find that running it in a VirtualBox
>> Machine,  it is really fast rather than a boot from cd.
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks to read this long-confuse mail and for any feedback.
>>
>> Massimo.
>>
>>> Welcome aboard.
>>> I suggest that any volunteers join the live-demo email list, and
>>> respond to this email suggesting how you might want to help.
>>> Cameron Shorter, FOSS4G chair.
>>>
>>> Ravi wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> volunteer:
>>>> Happy to note a good discussion.
>>>> I can help in seeing the draft of workshops/Labs that deal with
>>>> Vector-GIS and GIS that focuses on Geoscience. Can help in advising
>>>> where necessary, to tune the material such that those multitudes not
>>>> attending the event can equally use the material with ease.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Ravi Kumar
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Alex Borrell <borrellalex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Alex Borrell <borrellalex at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2009 to reach those who cannot
>>>>> attend
>>>>> To: "OSGeo Discussions" <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>> Cc: "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com>
>>>>> Date: Friday, 31 July, 2009, 8:12 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:55 AM,
>>>>> Massimo Di Stefano <massimodisasha at yahoo.it>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm  working on a live dvd project based on GIS
>>>>> software,
>>>>>
>>>>> i'm avaiable for any help on the dvd creation.
>>>>>
>>>>> let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ciao,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Massimo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno 31/lug/09, alle ore 11:11, Cameron Shorter ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ravi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you are so right, we do need to collect as much of the
>>>>> material from the FOSS4G conference as we can.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One way we hope to facilitate this has been to give every
>>>>> attendee a LiveDVD which can be populated with all the
>>>>> material from the workshops. This means that if workshop
>>>>> presenters can get their data onto the DVD, then they know
>>>>> all attendees will receive it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So we have budget for the LiveDVD. We have an old version
>>>>> of the LiveDVD (based on FOSS4G 2008). What we need to
>>>>> continue through to completion is to have someone who will
>>>>> coordinate the compiling of the DVD.  This is primarily a
>>>>> project management role, keeping track of what is on the DVD
>>>>> and what should be on it, contacting workshop authors, and
>>>>> project leads and helping them get their projects onto the
>>>>> DVD etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sound like you? It would be an incredibly valuable
>>>>> contribution to FOSS4G and the greater OSGeo community at
>>>>> large.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> These are all kind thoughts. Would you consider
>>>>> volunteering to help
>>>>>
>>>>> put together the conference live DVD? You can see an
>>>>> example from
>>>>>
>>>>> FOSS4G2008 etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jody
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:20 AM, <ravivundavalli at yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> FOSS4G every year is a keenly followed event. Many await
>>>>> the publication of material on the website eagerly such that
>>>>> they can follow labs, workshops and presentations of
>>>>> choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So the present organisers may please request those
>>>>> especially conducting labs/workshops to keep in mind the
>>>>> multitudes who browse them through the internet can have
>>>>> equal benefit. This can be achieved my keeping on the
>>>>> internet for download
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. All the binaries that are required for the exercise
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. All the data that are required for the exercise
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. All the printed material provided for the exercise
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. All the other material provided to the attendees, CD or
>>>>> DVD etc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that most of it is done each time, except for a few
>>>>> instances
>>>>>
>>>>> Example:'Download data from the CD provided', is
>>>>> given in the lab pdf.. but the data is not given for
>>>>> download...
>>>>>
>>>>> Example:'Run the pg_setenv.bat file first,'
>>>>> (FOSS4G2007).. even on date a nice archive is available from
>>>>> the FOSS4G2007 website, data, text etc..
>>>>>
>>>>> but, the pg_setenv.bat, not there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be trivial for experts, but for those learning
>>>>> through the internet and depending on 'Discuss
>>>>> Lists', it will be a roadblock.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Ravi Kumar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>>>
>>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>>>
>>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>>>>
>>>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Massimo is right, there are lots of people who can
>>>>> not attend FOSSG4, but would like to learn
>>>>> through Internet the workshops and conferences. As it is a
>>>>> fast growing field, the sooner the better. Please,
>>>>>
>>>>> if there is a way to help this happen, let me know!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am from Mexico, so if there is some need for spanish
>>>>> translation, or any other work I'll be glad to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex Borrell
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Cameron Shorter
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>
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