[Live-demo] Release 3.0 and 4.0 schedule + draft press release

Wed Dec 16 07:05:47 EST 2009

Judit,
I'm running off to bed now.  I like your idea of discussing the build
process, I'll add some words to the press release about it in ~ 12 hours, if
you don't write it first.

I want to send out the press release within 24 hours, otherwise we are going
to run out of time.

I would like to resolve people's concerns about naming, but I think that
needs to be addressed after the press release goes out. (I don't see it as a
blocking issue, and not getting started on the next release would become a
blocker soon).

I'll send the press release to discuss, and project leaders. Feel free to
forward onto others you think should receive it too.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Judit Mays <mays at lat-lon.de> wrote:

> thank you, Alex, for your explanation.
>
> I especially appreciate the thoughts on getting OSGeo projects to
> provide their software as (ubuntu/debian) packages. I see the value for
> the GISVM/LiveDVD build process as well as for the project itself.
>
> May be this should be added to the press release? May be this should
> also be discussed in or brought to attention of a broader audience?
> Incubation list? OSGeo discuss? (I am unsure, as I am still trying to
> get to know the OSGeo way of doing things.)
>
> Kind regards,
> Judit
>
>
> Alex Mandel schrieb:
> > That might be a good way to go about naming, a best of both worlds.
> > That's part of why I suggested this would be release 2.5, saving the 3.0
> > goodness or whole numbers for conference releases. .5 could still be a
> > major release though as Firefox has proven.
> >
> > I don't think we had decided at all what our release strategy would be.
> > Nor am I aware of any formal process to do so. The current suggestion
> > for work on the next release comes from my specific needs for the
> > conference season. If we wanted to just do a bugfix release that would
> > be an option.
> >
> > I've recommended the every 6 months as a way for us to help keep up with
> >  Ubuntu, which our live demo is based on, and as a way to motivate
> > projects to make/maintain packages. Creating packages is one of the side
> > goals of this effort specifically because it would make adding it to the
> > live-demo a one click operation, and would help a good deal of users out
> > there with easier installs. Most of the OSGeo projects release quite
> > often, so there's no shortage of major new innovations coming out all
> > the time, and that's one of our strongest selling points. I actually see
> > projects needing to put less effort into the live demo over time as long
> > as they maintain deb/ubuntu packages, in fact they might not have to do
> > any additional work at all.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
> > Judit Mays wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I would like to mention the German speaking FOSSGIS conference [1],
> >> March 2nd-5th 2010. I assume this might be too soon for the next
> >> OSGeo-Disc (version 3.0)?
> >>
> >> I agree with Hamish to first solve the naming problem before a press
> >> release. I also favour Cameron's intention to inform people before
> >> season vacation.
> >>
> >> When I joined this list in mid year, I thought Arramagong was a cool
> >> name for a conference handout in Australia. At that point I didn't know
> >> about the GISVM/LiveDVD project's broader approach, and I am still not
> >> sure about all aspects to it...
> >>
> >> I thought Arramagong was a release name, like Karmic Koala is for Ubuntu
> >> 9.10. And I thought this a perfect idea, to have a release name that
> >> suits the conference hosting country so well as does Arramagong.
> >>
> >> May be this might help to find a naming for the future? Even if it was
> >> just a misunderstanding on my side, it might be a common
> >> misunderstanding? Therefore I would suggest the regular standard name to
> >> be fairly "boring" (technical, matter of factly) and add a touch of
> >> spices with the yearly conference location giving some local touch.
> >> "Gaudi" comes to my mind when thinking of Barcelona, and it would match
> >> the next years conference logo as well. But please come up with
> >> something else all together if you feel inspired...
> >>
> >> By the way, I seem to miss discussions on the projects contents like:
> >> when did you guys talk about and decide that there should be 2 major
> >> releases each year? My impression from the mails on this list was a
> >> drift towards one major release towards FOSS4G and another minor half a
> >> year later. I am wondering where these decisions are made and by whom? I
> >> am just interested in the decision process.
> >>
> >> Don't get me wrong. I am not overly interested to have it this way or
> >> that. There might be ups and downs for both ways.
> >>
> >> Some downs for two major releases from my perspective are:
> >> * it would weaken my splendid idea of a conference-special-spicy-name
> >> for the product ;-)
> >> * some projects might decide to only update their GISVM/LiveDVD-versions
> >> for the annual gathering of tribes (FOSS4G), as the work involved might
> >> be too much if you can't find volunteers willing to go through the
> >> process twice a year.
> >>
> >> Happy to hear your thoughts,
> >> Judit
> >>
> >> [1] the only page I found with at least some English contents:
> >> http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/wiki/2010/Call_for_Papers
> >>
> >>
> >> Cameron Shorter schrieb:
> >>> I've put together a draft schedule at:
> >>>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tMRaCwabv7SiIG3moHEfMrQ&hl=en_GB
> >>> And I'm interested to hear feedback on whether people think this is
> >>> good. Note: I have 6 weeks factored in from Feature Freeze to Final
> >>> Release, to allow for testing.
> >>>
> >>> Alex, I'm interested to know the dates up the upcoming conferences so
> >>> that we can ensure we have the 3.0 DVD ready in time for it.
> >>>
> >>> I also have a draft press release which I think we should send out in a
> >>> couple of days calling on projects to contribute toward the Live DVD.
> >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_1
> >>>
> >>> Again, looking for feedback on this too.
> >>>
>
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