[Live-demo] "big" data sets on OSGeo Live

Fri Jan 11 06:40:08 PST 2013

Hi Barend,

Probably an uninformed question but what is wrong with 8GB DVDs?

Alan

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From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of b.j.kobben at utwente.nl [b.j.kobben at utwente.nl]
Sent: 11 January 2013 10:13
To: Baumann, Peter; live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] "big" data sets on OSGeo Live

No, I guess steve Jobs didn't like it ;-)

But seriously, putting the LiveDVD only on a 8Gb stick would seriously
diminish its worth for people who use it in education. You want to be able
to carry something to workshops and courses that you know will start up
(almost) everywhere, and is not too costly to give away on a regular basis
to larger groups. The DVD image is great for that, and I strongly urge you
to maintain one.
Which artifact to give away at FOSS4G conferences is another story I
guess, but please make sure there is an ISO out there to make a useful
DVD.

Barend

On 10-01-13 23:15, "Peter Baumann" <p.baumann at jacobs-university.de> wrote:

>wow, a Mac can't do that?? I don't even hcarry a DVD drive with me any
>longer on
>my Kubuntu box. Space for a second battery... :)
>
>On 01/10/2013 11:02 PM, b.j.kobben at utwente.nl wrote:
>> But you can start up anything from a DVD and many things wont start
>>from USB (e.g. my Mac)
>> --
>> Barend Köbben (Senior Lecturer)
>> ITC - University of Twente,
>> Faculty of Geo-Information Science and Earth Observation
>> PO Box 217, 7500AE Enschede (The Netherlands)
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>[live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Peter Baumann
>>[p.baumann at jacobs-university.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 22:57
>> To: Angelos Tzotsos
>> Cc: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] "big" data sets on OSGeo Live
>>
>> So making the offer official :) - rasdaman can gladly sponsor the price
>> difference between 4 and 8 GB for the 500+ sticks needed for FOSS4G.
>> -Peter
>>
>>
>> On 01/10/2013 10:53 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> Another thing that was brought up was the possibility to use 8GB USB
>>>drives
>>> for FOSS4G, which would mean that the mini iso could go up to 4.4G to
>>>fit on
>>> the DVD and the full iso (with the installers) would fit on the USB
>>>drive.
>>> Can this extra cost be covered somehow?
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2013 11:47 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>> Hi Peter and thanks for bringing this topic here.
>>>>
>>>> It would be great to have more data space and perhaps we can save
>>>>some space
>>>> if we track which projects use non common data-sets.
>>>>  From the IRC discussion there was a thought to include a
>>>>hyperspectral
>>>> dataset so that rasdaman, OTB, OSSIM, EOxServer and GRASS to use in
>>>>common.
>>>> Any thoughts on that? Should we play safe with free MODIS dataset or
>>>>is there
>>>> another suggestion? Would it be ok if we limit this to ~50MB size or
>>>>would we
>>>> need more? I know this is not enough for a good remote sensing
>>>>dataset, but
>>>> we are short on disk space currently.
>>>>
>>>> I liked the idea of using some web services for demo purposes in
>>>>addition to
>>>> data included in the disk as long as there is a notice to the user
>>>>that those
>>>> are available only with internet connection.
>>>>
>>>> About projects mentioned:
>>>> MapGuide is actually not included in the disk due to that large
>>>>footprint
>>>> (caused by mono dependency).
>>>> Marble in large because its dependencies for Qt bring in large parts
>>>>of the
>>>> KDE libraries.
>>>>
>>>> We definitely need to hear more from the projects on this!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Angelos
>>>>
>>>>> Hi listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> as space is running short on the ISO we need to reconsider sizings.
>>>>>In
>>>>> today's OSGel Live chat I was tasked to initiate this discussion.
>>>>>Current
>>>>> disk footprint of each application is available from
>>>>>
>>>>>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQ
>>>>>VJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc#gid=13
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Top riders currently:
>>>>> - mapguide: 550mb
>>>>> - marble: 300 mb (includes disk caching!)
>>>>> - grass >250mb
>>>>>
>>>>> One way of saving space is to enlarge it (ie, go to 8 GB) which is
>>>>>unclear
>>>>> due to some unresolved questions; another one is to deflate unused
>>>>>datasets,
>>>>> a third one to share data among applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I ask all those with 3-digit disk hunger to chime into this
>>>>>discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Baumann
>>    - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
>>      www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
>>      mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
>>      tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
>>    - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
>>      www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
>>      tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
>> "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis
>>ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli
>>destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD
>>1083)
>>
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>--
>Dr. Peter Baumann
>  - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
>    www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
>    mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
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>  - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
>    www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
>    tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
>"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis
>ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli
>destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD
>1083)
>
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