[Live-demo] THREDDS - was build process
Brian M Hamlin
maplabs at light42.com
Wed Dec 2 14:45:39 PST 2015
Hi Sean, Ethan, all
The Docker model is somewhat orthoganal to the aims and
implementation of the OSGeo-Live.
We are not *against* Docker, its just different. For example, a
Docker model works well to spawn
hundreds of servers that may be short-lived, and have identical install
footprints. I understand
that due to the popularity and some commerical investment, the Docker
model is being spread
further to include demo installs of heavier apps, in an easily
reproducible way ..
Meanwhile, the OSGeo-Live is intended to be a stand-alone boot, that
will work *without a
network connection* at all.. this is important in a few scenarios, like
a secure physical environment,
training and education, the third-world, and in-the-field use, to name
a few.. The Live is intended
to be a fully-functioning, stand-alone Live disk which works on
mid-level and legacy PC hardware.
This also makes it well suited to being a 32bit VM, but that is a
side-effect. Docker is intended
for on-demand, server-side installs and as a side-effect, amakes
installation easy on a laptop
for a demo .. etc
I am not in the Docker community, so if I misundestand, or miss
something important here,
please speak up !
Lastly, I think i can say we are super-interested in the THREDDS
server showing something on
the Live. We are first-off an end-user disk, so its not clear what
level of detail is appropriate.
But there are plenty of possibilities, and it is *definitely* in line
with the mission here.
best regards from Berkeley, California
Brian M Hamlin
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 07:20:32 +1100, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Ethan,
The next step in including THREDDS to OSGeo-Live is to officially
apply, as per:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive
If you wish to join our next release then please send us an email in
the next week officially asking to apply.
Warm regards, Cameron
On 3/12/2015 3:37 am, Sean Arms wrote:
Greetings Cameron,
I do not mind at all if you share and move this over to the OSGeo-Live
list. We have team meetings every Thursday, so I will be sure to bring
this up tomorrow to get a feel for it. One question off the top of my
head is do you support using Docker to install software? I know it's
not mentioned in the wiki, but it makes installation of the THREDDS
Data Server pretty painless, and is what we have moved to for running
our training workshop.
Cheers!
Sean
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Hi Sean,
Thanks for getting back. Do you mind if I share our emails on the
public OSGeo-Live list Live-demo at lists.osgeo.org?
Great to hear that THREDDS is going strong.
My key question is whether THREDDS wishes to be included on OSGeo-Live?
http://live.osgeo.org
It is an excellent outreach and marketing tool for Open Source
projects, which is handed out on USBs/DVDs at conferences, used by
educators in virtual machines in workshops and training programs, and
of course from our website.
We are right now kicking off the process for our next release (see
bottom of this email thread). The process for on boarding new projects
is described here:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive
If you and your team would like to join us (and I hope you do), please
start by emailing an application to our email list (as explained in
link above).
Warm regards,
Cameron Shorter (one of the OSGeo-Live coordinators)
On 1/12/2015 3:12 am, Sean Arms wrote:
Greetings Cameron,
Thank you for considering the addition of the THREDDS project in
OSGeo-Live. First and most importantly, I want to assure you that the
THREDDS project has not stalled and is indeed still active. Our latest
release for both netCDF-Java and the THREDDS Data Server is version
4.6.3, and was released on 31 August 2015.
http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/blogs/news/entry/netcdf-java-library-and-tds
We are approaching our next release, and hope to have it out by the end
of the year (v4.6.4). Note that most of our active development has been
on v5.0, which includes a major rewrite and extension to the way
gridded datasets are handled in general. This release will also
included the latest version of ncWMS (a.k.a. edal-java). We hope to
have a beta available sometime in December.
While the original lead developer, John Caron, is no longer with
Unidata, the THREDDS team is quite strong, and Unidata has doubled down
on its commitment to the THREDDS stack - no worries of this project
becoming abandonware.
If you would like to get an idea of current participation in the
project, including external contributors, please see our github project
page (includes both netCDF-Java and the THREDDS Data Server):
https://github.com/unidata/thredds
If you have any specific questions, please do not hesitate to contact us!
Cheers!
Sean
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Ethan Davis wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Sean Arms (CCed) is now leading the THREDDS team. I'll let him address
your comments.
Cheers,
Ethan
On Nov 28, 2015 1:18 PM, "Cameron Shorter" wrote:
Hi Ethan,
Are you the right person to talk to about THREDDS?
THREEDS [1] has previously been suggested as a candidate for inclusion
on OSGeo-Live, but more recently I've heard rumours of a lack of
activity from the THREEDS community.
[1] http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/thredds/current/tds/
Warm regards, Cameron Shorter
On 23/11/2015 6:18 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
We are starting the build cycle for version 9.5 of the
OSGeo-Live [1] DVD/USB/VM which will be released in March 2016, ready
for several special events, including FOSS4G-NA, FOSSGIS (Salzburg,
Austria), among others.
We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add translations, or anyone who
has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
Key Milestones
11 Jan 2016 All new applications installed, most old applications updated
01 Feb 2016 Feature Freeze (all apps updated)
15 Feb 2016 User Acceptance Test (all apps installed and working)
21 Mar 2016 Final ISO sent to printers
About OSGeo-Live
OSGeo-live is a Lubuntu based distribution of Geospatial Open Source
Software, available via a Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can
use OSGeo-Live to try a wide variety of open source geospatial software
without installing anything.
[1] http://live.osgeo.org
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Cameron Shorter,
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LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
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Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
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