[Live-demo] "descoping" OSGeo-Live

Thu Apr 20 07:10:03 PDT 2017

All,

I just logged into OpenHub and tried to see what updates I could add in there, and there’s not muchas far as options go for updating things manually, there are some things.  So I guess I’m on the fence about it for similar reasons to those described by Jim. I’ll wander back into it as time allows, but no predictions yet about a timeline on being able to make it accurately reflect the project goings ons.

bobb

On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:03 AM, James Klassen <jklassen at sharedgeo.org<mailto:jklassen at sharedgeo.org>> wrote:

Speaking as a member of the GeoMoose PSC and as one of the people who keeps GeoMoose up to date in OSGeo-Live...  It isn't clear to me what to do about it but for the record OpenHub seems to be pretty confused about GeoMoose.

It is missing our early history (2005-2009).  It is confused about our recent history (probably because of our use of git submodules).  And it is completely unaware of our 3.0 developments (which are happening in new repos, incidently because we want to move away from git submodules).

As a project we would much rather be putting our time into maintaining 2.9.x and into the current effort to moderize our project for what will become our 3.0 release than worring about how to get a black box (OpenHub) to properly understand our project's history.  Maybe when things quiet down OpenHub tinkering will make it to the top of the list, but I don't see that being the case anytime soon.

On Apr 20, 2017 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Activity Workshop,

Yes, you make some good points, there are a number of things we should be considering when selecting a project for OSGeo-Live. A more detailed list is provided in our application form:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply

Cheers, Cameron

On 20/4/17 4:54 am, Activity Workshop wrote:
On 14/04/17 21:00, live-demo-request at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:live-demo-request at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
While projects should rightly be concerned if OSGeo-Live only uses
OpenHub metrics to assess project health, they should be significantly
more concerned about the general public's assessment of their project.
You're correct to say that these metrics should not be the only criterion for
removing projects from OSGeo-Live.  There are so many other (in my view more
important) factors to consider:
- is the software useful?  Is the software reliable?
- is the inclusion straightforward or does it require lots of building /
packaging / patching / dependency-resolution work from the OSGeo-Live team?
- does it take up a lot of disk space?
- is the team responsive to questions from the OSGeo-Live team, are the
developers helpful with providing information and documentation?
- and many other factors too of course.

I think it should be a priority of all projects to try an ensure their
OpenHub metrics reflect the true health of their project ...
Well, OpenHub (BlackDuck) is a company.  If (in your opinion) their numbers
aren't providing a useful picture then it is arguable whether this should be put
at the door of all the unpaid open software developers, or alternatively at the
door of the company's staff and systems.

Regards,
activityworkshop

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