[Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

Mon Jun 5 20:24:33 PDT 2017

Hi all

Julien, I "translated" to the french language on page:

https://www.transifex.com/bakanikos-lab/test_osgeolive/translate/#fr/overview--pgrouting_overview/109540114

There are two steps in the translation process: one is translate the other
is accept the translation, I think si with a review button.
I dont know if you can review my translation to french I did without
knowing french.

Or maybe only Niko can do it, maybe for you to do it Baka has to set you a
manager of french language

What I did for that translation is to copy/paste from here: (not that I
know french, but by working in order I thik I placed the correct string in
the correct place)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/test/sphinx/oldLanguagesDoc/fr/overview/pgrouting_overview.rst

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de> wrote:

> Sometimes Transifex makes it really hard to find the right settings and
> buttons. ;-)
>
> I think I was the one, who accepted Julien to the Transifex pgRouting
> project.
> By that time I saw, that there were 2 translation groups, one for
> pgRotuing OSGeo Live and one for the other pgRouting translation projects.
> I didn't remember the reason for that, so I merged both groups into one to
> keep things simple.
>
> There were a couple of languages, where either nothing had been translated
> or all translators had disappeared (with only one or two strings
> translated).
> It happens from time to time, that a new language is requested without any
> activity afterwards.
> In my opinion it makes no sense to provide those languages, so I have
> removed them.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>
> wrote:
>
>> I added the languages so long a go I fogot how to do stuff
>> by the time I wanted to add Julien he was already there but I used  the
>> method click and find ;)
>> I honestly don't know
>> Vicky
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Baka Niko <baka.niko at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vicky  and Julien,
>>>
>>> Regarding mytest lab, I added Julien as a translator and Spanish as a
>>> new language.
>>>
>>> Vicky as a maintainer, where you able to add languages or people in the
>>> project ?
>>> I might not be very reactive if you need something.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>> 2017-06-05 7:10 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>:
>>>
>>>> Hello Julien
>>>> In the pgRouting I see you as a translator
>>>>
>>>> Can you confirm that?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Julien Moquet <moquet.julien at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Vicky,
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Navigate to: https://www.transifex.com/pgrouting/pgrouting
>>>>> >> Ask to be a french translator, I aprove you
>>>>>
>>>>> Done !
>>>>> Let's begin !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >> I'll prepare it ASAP and keep you posted, on the mean time
>>>>> >> when you register to transifex, also ask to be a french translator
>>>>> on
>>>>> >> https://www.transifex.com/bakanikos-lab/test_osgeolive
>>>>>
>>>>> Done !
>>>>> I am waiting for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Julien.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-06-03 5:47 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Julien
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I found   "https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc" which
>>>>>> appears to be Vicky's fork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes indeed that is my fork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > With a "test/sphinx" branch inside that seems to be the transiflex
>>>>>> implementation ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, test/sphinx is the branch I am using. although it stopped being
>>>>>> a test of sphinx long time ago, (like after the next day, I started working
>>>>>> on it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > It's like you've been 6 days on it on github. But what a work done !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes 6 days, but not all the time, I confess, you see I have to work
>>>>>> with 3 GSoC students in the morning, and do my own pgRouting stuff but ..
>>>>>> because I am doing the same thing (handing the documentation in
>>>>>> pgRouting) then its kind of:
>>>>>> - do some experimenting here, it works do the same there
>>>>>> - do some experimenting there, it works do the same here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I do not really know transiflex indeed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can practice with pgRouting
>>>>>> Register to transifex.
>>>>>> https://docs.transifex.com/getting-started/translators
>>>>>> find pgRouting:
>>>>>> Navigate to: https://www.transifex.com/pgrouting/pgrouting
>>>>>> Ask to be a french translator, I aprove you
>>>>>> then you can start translating french.
>>>>>> choose a file, with v2.5 (I keep the V2_0 because transifex has
>>>>>> memory for already translated string that comes out very handy) tell me
>>>>>> when you are done, and we discuss about details like Sphinx syntax that has
>>>>>> to be kept.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Translations using transifex to OSGeoLive are not ready yet, I don't
>>>>>> think I will finish before the release. I am so slow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So about OSGeoLive main repo translation (in master)
>>>>>> In [1] you can see the files that already have being translated to
>>>>>> french
>>>>>> In [2] you can see the files that are in total
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/tree/master/fr/quickstart
>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/tree/master/en/quickstart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > But nevermind ! Are you stuck somewhere or something can be done ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually I am stuck, what I want to do is to extract already
>>>>>> translated strings, and upload them to transifex.
>>>>>> That way, all these years of translation is not re-done from scratch
>>>>>> And of course if I can do that, then maybe there is a very "petit"
>>>>>> possibility that for version 11 transifex could be used.
>>>>>> Of course tests must be done, and you see I am a testing freak, that
>>>>>> is why I started CI tests
>>>>>> https://travis-ci.org/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just occurred to me that maybe a bunch of copy/paste and let a real
>>>>>> translator check if the copy/paste was good.
>>>>>> That would be a good test to do....
>>>>>> I'll prepare it ASAP and keep you posted, on the mean time
>>>>>> when you register to transifex, also ask to be a french translator on
>>>>>> https://www.transifex.com/bakanikos-lab/test_osgeolive
>>>>>> don't translate there, because that is only for testing, the real
>>>>>> location is not going to be that one
>>>>>> (for Spanish I just translated a single string, just for testing)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Julien Moquet <
>>>>>> moquet.julien at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found   "https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc" which
>>>>>>> appears to be Vicky's fork.
>>>>>>> With a "test/sphinx" branch inside that seems to be the transiflex
>>>>>>> implementation ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's like you've been 6 days on it on github. But what a work done !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not really know transiflex indeed...
>>>>>>> But nevermind ! Are you stuck somewhere or something can be done ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Julien.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-06-01 22:09 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <
>>>>>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Julien,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for offering to help with translations. I'm looping in Niko
>>>>>>>> and Vicky who are currently wrestling with trying to get transifex to work.
>>>>>>>> If you are familiar with it, you might be able to help them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has been translated into other
>>>>>>>> languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>>>>>> > Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am fully agree too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And as OsGeoLive aims to be multilanguages, I can help on the proj4
>>>>>>>> French Translation pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com
>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38 CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the Proj4 projects
>>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > However, it appears that proj4 is the only project in that
>>>>>>>>> grouping
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > which is active?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should be dropped from
>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It would be ok to say
>>>>>>>>> "Proj4
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > has been translated into other languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Your thoughts are welcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding what is listed currently in metacrs :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - proj4js: no opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - cs-map: no-opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily used underneath by GDAL in
>>>>>>>>> particular, mostly in maintaince mode, but can be treated as a technical
>>>>>>>>> dependency that doesn't require to be visible from users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - proj4j: no opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - spatialreference.org: not maintained in years. http://epsg.io/
>>>>>>>>> would be a possible replacement
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ... meta for folks
>>>>>>>>> exploring OSGeo-Live content, so it could make sense exposing proj.4 as a
>>>>>>>>> standalone project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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