[Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

Tue Jun 20 15:00:11 PDT 2017

Hello Julien.

+1 to wait for transifex translations for new documents or completely
rewritten documents.

and focus the efforts of the translators on the files with "not so many
changes".
So that, when moving to transifex the already translated strings, we know
are "almost" valid strings.

Vicky

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Julien Moquet <moquet.julien at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Cameron,
>
> Yes, and I made a tweet out of it !
> Thank you for your help too.
>
> About the translations, as transifex will arrive soon (thanks to Vicky !),
> it should be a good idea to wait a bit more, and let them use and practice
> transifex rather than text on github. Vicky tell me how to add the french
> translation by myself before.
> What do you think of ?
>
> Regards,
> Julien.
>
> 2017-06-20 22:45 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Julien,
>>
>> In case you missed it, I've reviewed your Proj4 Project Overview, pull
>> request is here:
>>
>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216
>> Thanks for your work.
>>
>>
>> On 17/6/17 7:19 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>>
>> >> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is in
>> hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.
>>
>> Thank you for telling me. I am sure she'd be back soon.
>>
>>
>> >> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates this weekend,
>> from a readability point of view.
>>
>> I'm done with proj4 on my side : doc & iso 10.5 are good for me.
>> I am about to pull request it.
>>
>> It would have been done whatever the release it is for. It wasn't so much
>> work to do.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien.
>>
>> 2017-06-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Julien,
>>>
>>> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is in hospital,
>>> so she will be short on spare time for a bit.
>>>
>>> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates this weekend,
>>> from a readability point of view.
>>>
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>> On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Vicky,
>>>
>>> I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.
>>>
>>> I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very few change : are
>>> you agree to be proj4's quickstart's reviewer ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien.
>>>
>>> 2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet <moquet.julien at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Vicky,
>>>>
>>>> I am not in the incubating list as a human being, but metacrs is :
>>>> http://www.osgeo.org/incubator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll have a look on pgRouting.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Julien.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Julien,
>>>>>
>>>>> Now about the documentation
>>>>> I see you've worked on your fork, these are the differences:
>>>>> is that correct?
>>>>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...juli
>>>>> en2512:master
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont think you are incubating project (I dont see it in the list of
>>>>> incubating projects), so this might not apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> .. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
>>>>>   :scale: 100 %
>>>>>   :alt: OSGeo Project
>>>>>   :align: right
>>>>>   :target: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I see you advanced a lot on the documentation 👍
>>>>> You might as well do the PR so that the other members of the team can
>>>>> give you feed back.
>>>>> Vicky.
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS, in pgRouting   the documentation is done in such a way, to make
>>>>> minimal changes in further releases of OSGeo Live.
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Julien Moquet <
>>>>> moquet.julien at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Vicky,
>>>>>> My fork is up to date regarding the overview and quickstart:
>>>>>> https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc
>>>>>> Before making a pull request, I need to test it over the
>>>>>> OsGeoLive-10.5 (on wednesday or thursday).
>>>>>> Although, as I read the sources.list include in this version, I don't
>>>>>> really think the latest proj4 will be used.
>>>>>> The ubuntugis is used for that, and there is only the stable 4.8.0-3
>>>>>> proj4 release to be used. See : http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubunt
>>>>>> ugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/
>>>>>> and https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sourc
>>>>>> es.list.d/ubuntugis.list
>>>>>> That's why I finally don't have to change the proj4 release on its
>>>>>> overview.
>>>>>> I only bypass the metacrs and stuff.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Julien.
>>>>>> 2017-06-11 18:11 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Julien, et all
>>>>>>> Maybe you can help me.
>>>>>>> It so happened that I sent another mail asking about what version to
>>>>>>> use, while reviewing today, I saw that I didn't send the mail to proj4.
>>>>>>> (my mail merge skills are not so good)
>>>>>>> So, here is the hand made mail:
>>>>>>> Hi all, With the upcoming OSGeo-Live 11.0 reboot, we will be
>>>>>>> re-inserting each project into the OSGeo-Live baseline once someone from
>>>>>>> each project has replied to confirm that they have reviewed docs and
>>>>>>> verified the application works as expected. Can you please:  0. Reply by
>>>>>>> return email to confirm that you have recieved this email and that you are
>>>>>>> able to check docs within the next 2 weeks. (sooner would be better if you
>>>>>>> can)  1. Reply to confirm the Project Overview is still accurate, or has
>>>>>>> been updated, (and version numbers are correct)  2. Reply to confirm you
>>>>>>> have run a recent OSGeo-Live version (the previous 10.5 version is ok), and
>>>>>>> updated the quickstart where needed.  We understand that version 4.9.2 of
>>>>>>> proj4 will be installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0 (Version 4.9.2 was installed on
>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live 10.5.)
>>>>>>> (all in one reply is ok)
>>>>>>> Full package status can be seen here: https://docs.google.com/spread
>>>>>>> sheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?h
>>>>>>> l=en_GB#gid=2014800150 Key Milestones -------------------
>>>>>>> 18-Jun-2017    All docs reviewed and verified 21-Jun-2017
>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application versions installed - Beta
>>>>>>> stage) 24-Jul-2017    OSGeo-Live Final ISO 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017
>>>>>>> Boston ... full schedule http://spreadsheets.google.com
>>>>>>> /ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cameron Shorter <
>>>>>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Julien,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for offering to help with translations. I'm looping in Niko
>>>>>>>> and Vicky who are currently wrestling with trying to get transifex to work.
>>>>>>>> If you are familiar with it, you might be able to help them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>>>>>> On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> >> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has been translated into other
>>>>>>>> languages, including proj4js, ..." > Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit
>>>>>>>> too ..
>>>>>>>> I am fully agree too.
>>>>>>>> And as OsGeoLive aims to be multilanguages, I can help on the proj4
>>>>>>>> French Translation pages.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com
>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38 CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Hi Evan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the Proj4 projects
>>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > However, it appears that proj4 is the only project in that
>>>>>>>>> grouping
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > which is active?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should be dropped from
>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It would be ok to say
>>>>>>>>> "Proj4
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > has been translated into other languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > Your thoughts are welcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding what is listed currently in metacrs :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - proj4js: no opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - cs-map: no-opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily used underneath by GDAL in
>>>>>>>>> particular, mostly in maintaince mode, but can be treated as a technical
>>>>>>>>> dependency that doesn't require to be visible from users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - proj4j: no opinion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - spatialreference.org: not maintained in years. http://epsg.io/
>>>>>>>>> would be a possible replacement
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ... meta for folks
>>>>>>>>> exploring OSGeo-Live content, so it could make sense exposing proj.4 as a
>>>>>>>>> standalone project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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