[Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Jun 22 12:38:25 PDT 2017
Hello Julien,
For opinions on translation, I defer mostly to people with more
experience that me. (I'm afraid I only speak English).
Cheers, Cameron.
On 21/6/17 8:00 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:
> Hello Julien.
>
> +1 to wait for transifex translations for new documents or completely
> rewritten documents.
>
> and focus the efforts of the translators on the files with "not so
> many changes".
> So that, when moving to transifex the already translated strings, we
> know are "almost" valid strings.
>
>
> Vicky
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Julien Moquet
> <moquet.julien at gmail.com <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Cameron,
>
> Yes, and I made a tweet out of it !
> Thank you for your help too.
>
> About the translations, as transifex will arrive soon (thanks to
> Vicky !), it should be a good idea to wait a bit more, and let
> them use and practice transifex rather than text on github. Vicky
> tell me how to add the french translation by myself before.
> What do you think of ?
>
> Regards,
> Julien.
>
> 2017-06-20 22:45 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>:
>
> Hi Julien,
>
> In case you missed it, I've reviewed your Proj4 Project
> Overview, pull request is here:
>
> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216
> <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216>
>
> Thanks for your work.
>
>
> On 17/6/17 7:19 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>>
>> >> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is
>> in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.
>>
>> Thank you for telling me. I am sure she'd be back soon.
>>
>>
>> >> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
>> this weekend, from a readability point of view.
>>
>> I'm done with proj4 on my side : doc & iso 10.5 are good for me.
>> I am about to pull request it.
>>
>> It would have been done whatever the release it is for. It
>> wasn't so much work to do.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien.
>>
>> 2017-06-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hi Julien,
>>
>> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who
>> is in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.
>>
>> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
>> this weekend, from a readability point of view.
>>
>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>
>>
>> On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>> Hi Vicky,
>>>
>>> I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.
>>>
>>> I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very
>>> few change : are you agree to be proj4's quickstart's
>>> reviewer ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien.
>>>
>>> 2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet
>>> <moquet.julien at gmail.com <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>> Hi Vicky,
>>>
>>> I am not in the incubating list as a human being,
>>> but metacrs is :
>>> http://www.osgeo.org/incubator
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll have a look on pgRouting.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
>>> <vicky at georepublic.de <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>>:
>>>
>>> Hello Julien,
>>>
>>> Now about the documentation
>>> I see you've worked on your fork, these are the
>>> differences:
>>> is that correct?
>>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master
>>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master>
>>>
>>> I dont think you are incubating project (I dont
>>> see it in the list of incubating projects), so
>>> this might not apply.
>>>
>>> .. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
>>> :scale: 100 %
>>> :alt: OSGeo Project
>>> :align: right
>>> :target:http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
>>> <http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I see you advanced a lot on the
>>> documentation 👍
>>> You might as well do the PR so that the other
>>> members of the team can give you feed back.
>>> Vicky.
>>>
>>> PS, in pgRouting the documentation is done in
>>> such a way, to make minimal changes in further
>>> releases of OSGeo Live.
>>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Julien Moquet
>>> <moquet.julien at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Vicky,
>>> My fork is up to date regarding the overview
>>> and quickstart:
>>> https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc
>>> <https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc>
>>> Before making a pull request, I need to test
>>> it over the OsGeoLive-10.5 (on wednesday or
>>> thursday).
>>> Although, as I read the sources.list include
>>> in this version, I don't really think the
>>> latest proj4 will be used.
>>> The ubuntugis is used for that, and there is
>>> only the stable 4.8.0-3 proj4 release to be
>>> used. See :
>>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/
>>> <http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/>
>>>
>>> and
>>> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list
>>> <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list>
>>>
>>> That's why I finally don't have to change
>>> the proj4 release on its overview.
>>> I only bypass the metacrs and stuff.
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien.
>>> 2017-06-11 18:11 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
>>> <vicky at georepublic.de
>>> <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>>:
>>>
>>> Hi Julien, et all
>>> Maybe you can help me.
>>> It so happened that I sent another mail
>>> asking about what version to use, while
>>> reviewing today, I saw that I didn't
>>> send the mail to proj4.
>>> (my mail merge skills are not so good)
>>> So, here is the hand made mail:
>>> Hi all, With the upcoming OSGeo-Live
>>> 11.0 reboot, we will be re-inserting
>>> each project into the OSGeo-Live
>>> baseline once someone from each project
>>> has replied to confirm that they have
>>> reviewed docs and verified the
>>> application works as expected. Can you
>>> please: 0. Reply by return email to
>>> confirm that you have recieved this
>>> email and that you are able to check
>>> docs within the next 2 weeks. (sooner
>>> would be better if you can) 1. Reply to
>>> confirm the Project Overview is still
>>> accurate, or has been updated, (and
>>> version numbers are correct) 2. Reply
>>> to confirm you have run a recent
>>> OSGeo-Live version (the previous 10.5
>>> version is ok), and updated the
>>> quickstart where needed. We understand
>>> that version 4.9.2 of proj4 will be
>>> installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0 (Version
>>> 4.9.2 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.)
>>> (all in one reply is ok)
>>> Full package status can be seen here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
>>> Key Milestones -------------------
>>> 18-Jun-2017 All docs reviewed and
>>> verified 21-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live
>>> delivered to UAT (final application
>>> versions installed - Beta stage)
>>> 24-Jul-2017 OSGeo-Live Final ISO
>>> 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston ... full
>>> schedule
>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>>> <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cameron
>>> Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Julien,
>>>
>>> Thanks for offering to help with
>>> translations. I'm looping in Niko
>>> and Vicky who are currently
>>> wrestling with trying to get
>>> transifex to work. If you are
>>> familiar with it, you might be able
>>> to help them.
>>>
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>> On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> >> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has
>>>> been translated into other
>>>> languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>> > Agreed that metacrs is probably a
>>>> bit too ..
>>>> I am fully agree too.
>>>> And as OsGeoLive aims to be
>>>> multilanguages, I can help on the
>>>> proj4 French Translation pages.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even
>>>> Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com
>>>> <mailto:even.rouault at spatialys.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38
>>>> CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Evan,
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > Yes, MetaCRS was a project
>>>> gathering all the Proj4
>>>> projects together.
>>>>
>>>> > However, it appears that proj4
>>>> is the only project in that
>>>> grouping
>>>>
>>>> > which is active?
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > Hence my thoughts are that
>>>> "MetaCRS" should be dropped
>>>> from OSGeo-Live
>>>>
>>>> > as a concept and "Proj4" be
>>>> used instead. It would be ok to
>>>> say "Proj4
>>>>
>>>> > has been translated into other
>>>> languages, including proj4js, ..."
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > Your thoughts are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding what is listed
>>>> currently in metacrs :
>>>>
>>>> - proj4js: no opinion
>>>>
>>>> - cs-map: no-opinion
>>>>
>>>> - geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily
>>>> used underneath by GDAL in
>>>> particular, mostly in
>>>> maintaince mode, but can be
>>>> treated as a technical
>>>> dependency that doesn't require
>>>> to be visible from users.
>>>>
>>>> - proj4j: no opinion
>>>>
>>>> - spatialreference.org
>>>> <http://spatialreference.org>:
>>>> not maintained in years.
>>>> http://epsg.io/ would be a
>>>> possible replacement
>>>>
>>>> Agreed that metacrs is probably
>>>> a bit too ... meta for folks
>>>> exploring OSGeo-Live content,
>>>> so it could make sense exposing
>>>> proj.4 as a standalone project.
>>>>
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>>>>
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