[mapguide-internals] RE: PATCH: Raster stability fixes, ticket#462

[Bruce Dechant]

Jason,

I understand the situation and fully agree that the GDAL provider is very important to MapGuide.
I sure hope no one has to wait a whole year for this to be fixed properly. I think it has only been recently that we now have a much better understanding of what the actual issue is and what is causing the instability.

2.1 has lots of improvements and I was hoping we could get it in the users hands as planned, but if the PSC feels that this is a stop release issue then the PSC needs to make that call and postpone the release until this issue is addressed properly. 

Thanks,
Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jason Birch
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:14 PM
To: 'MapGuide Internals Mail List'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] RE: PATCH: Raster stability fixes, ticket#462

Bruce,

I understand your reluctance to introduce new code at this point, but I worry that releasing another version of MapGuide Open Source with the current set of defects will slow adoption even further and turn off folks who are currently implementing.  I've lost track of the people I've talked to who either elected to stay at 1.2, or gave up on the MGE/MGOS migration entirely and went to ESRI instead, solely because of stability issues.

MGOS 2.0 was not production ready and in my experience 2.1 is still not production ready.  Releasing it at this point and requiring users to wait an additional year for 2.2 will further decrease adoption and increase community frustration.  I personally see the inherent problems with the FDO connection manager, and the problem with not reusing TCP connections for the Windows (ISAPI?) client to be blockers for this release.  I recognise that perfection is the enemy of done, but I also feel that as a project we should not be beholden to a fixed release cycle and if there are critical issues they should be addressed prior to release.

Jason

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Dechant
Sent: March-30-09 8:47 AM
To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] RE: PATCH: Raster stability fixes, ticket#462

Traian - Thanks for investigating this over the weekend, much appreciated!

Anyways, for the 2.1 release of MapGuide I think we should incorporate the reference count fix to the GDAL provider - this should be done regardless as Traian has already pointed out the weak reference to the FDO connection in the reader is bad. I don't think we should make significant changes to the FDO connection manager this close to release.

Post 2.1 release the FDO connection manager should be more closely looked at to see what can be done to more easily handle single threaded providers and to perhaps get rid of the reference count dependency for determining if a FDO connection is still in use. This may require an additional FDO API so the provider could just tell the server if the connection is in use. 

Thanks,
Bruce
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