[mapguide-internals] Participation in FOSS4G WMS Shoot-out

Fri May 21 18:36:27 EDT 2010

I may put some effort in it too. I will be also in Barcelona if that helps.

Haris

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Jason Birch <jason at jasonbirch.com> wrote:

> Attempted and failed due to lack of resources is better than not even
> trying IMO.
>
> On 2010-05-21, Trevor Wekel <trevor_wekel at otxsystems.com> wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > There seems to be a lot of PSC interest in the FOSS4G WMS shootout:
> >
> > Jason - may be able to free up some time to help
> > Zac - overallocated at the moment, happy to help a bit
> > Trevor - also busy at the moment, can help a little
> >
> > I think the first step in the shootout would be to setup and run a
> portion
> > of last year's shootout against a Linux build of the 2.2 beta on CentOS
> 5.4
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Benchmarking_2009.  The shootout was run on
> > CentOS 5.3 last year.  5.4 should be close enough and that's what the
> beta
> > is compiled against.  As a starting point just the SHP and TIFF dataset
> > tests could be run.  This would give us a good indication of where we
> stand
> > right now.
> >
> > The tests should be run on an older physical machine with 4 cores and 8GB
> of
> > ram.  Running on a virtualized machine may skew the results.  Ideally, a
> > second machine should be make available as "client" machine.  I think
> this
> > machine could be a VM.  The load on the test machine should not be very
> > high.
> >
> > As it turns out, I have enough hardware available to set up the
> environment
> > but I do not have time to install mapguide/author the maps/run the tests.
> > If someone else, or a collaboration of people, can install/author/run the
> > tests, we would be much further along.  Even producing "lacklustre"
> results
> > at FOSS4G would show that MapGuide is a serious WMS contender and it
> would
> > give us something to improve for the next release.
> >
> > A bit of part time work from a few PSC members might be enough to get the
> > WMS shootout going.  Does this sound like a reasonable approach?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Trevor
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> > [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jason
> Birch
> > Sent: May 20, 2010 8:16 PM
> > To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
> > Subject: Re: [mapguide-internals] Participation in FOSS4G WMS Shoot-out
> >
> > I think we're going to have to pass this year if a PSC member can't
> > dedicate the time. This kind of effort is going to require a fair
> > amount of coordination and feedback, and I have a feeling that much of
> > the high-performance configuration knowledge for MG is in this thread.
> > :)
> >
> >
> > On 2010-05-20, Zac Spitzer <zac.spitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'd love to get invloved with this, but due to it being close to end
> >> of financial
> >> year, I'm extremely over allocated at the moment.
> >>
> >> Happy to help a bit, but I'm in your boat Jason
> >>
> >> Perhaps we should fire a message off over on mg-users and see if
> >> anyone wants to work help out?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 21 May 2010 09:12, Jason Birch <jason at jasonbirch.com> wrote:
> >>> I certainly have no objections to participating if there's someone who
> >>> has time to run with it, but I unfortunately do not (though I would
> >>> hope to be able to free up time to help).  Zac, if you have time I'd
> >>> be happy to start a vote to give you official sanction (whatever that
> >>> means).
> >>>
> >>> On 2010-05-19, Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com> wrote:
> >>>> Thanks for the answer Bruce.
> >>>>
> >>>> So it seems that there is no technical reason stopping MapGuide from
> >>>> participating in the WMS Shoot-out. Of course there is the question of
> >>>> availability of resources which I fully appreciate since it's an issue
> >>>> for all of us.
> >>>>
> >>>> The benchmarking team is already late on its schedule and needs formal
> >>>> answers/commitments from all teams ASAP. Could we get an official
> answer
> >>>> from the MapGuide Dev/PSC team? Everybody would love if MapGuide could
> >>>> join the fun, but if that's not possible then the benchmarking team
> >>>> would like to have an official answer that they can refer to when they
> >>>> have to explain in front of ~1,000 people why software A, B or C was
> not
> >>>> involved.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks, and sorry for being persistent. I promise it's the last time I
> >>>> ask.
> >>>>
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce Dechant wrote:
> >>>>> MapGuide supports WMS up to and including version 1.1.1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> >>>>> [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>>> Daniel
> >>>>> Morissette
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:27 AM
> >>>>> To: mapguide-internals at lists.osgeo.org
> >>>>> Cc: Jeff McKenna
> >>>>> Subject: [mapguide-internals] Re: Participation in FOSS4G WMS
> Shoot-out
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jason,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (Sorry for the late reply, I am subscribed to the list only in digest
> >>>>> mode and sometimes may miss some replies. If you CC me then I can
> reply
> >>>>> right away.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> FYI SLD is not a requirement, as long as you configure your server to
> >>>>> use the specified styles (line width, colors, etc).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, the tests use WMS version 1.1.1, and only with very basic
> GetMap
> >>>>> calls. Which version of WMS does MapGuide support?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Daniel
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason Birch wrote:
> >>>>>> I'd love to see this happen, but I don't think we have the resources
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> dedicate to participating or to fixing any issues that were
> >>>>>> highlighted,
> >>>>>> which would be even more important.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a feeling that this benchmark would expose considerable
> >>>>>> weaknesses
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> MapGuide, some of which we care about (raster stability), others not
> >>>>>> so
> >>>>>> much
> >>>>>> (shapefile performance), and things like our lack of SLD or newer
> WMS
> >>>>>> version support may mean that we can't even participate even if we
> >>>>>> wanted
> >>>>>> to.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Daniel Morissette
> >>>>> http://www.mapgears.com/
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