[mapguide-users] ArcSDE

Robert Fortin robert.fortin at autodesk.com
Wed Oct 18 10:30:48 EDT 2006


ArcSDE provider was donated by Autodesk to the OSGeo open source
community.
It uses ArcSDE client component to access ArcSDE data.  It gets package
with Autodesk Map and MapGuide Enterprise.
It does require valid ESRI client component and proper licensing for
those component.  

As for the FDO reference you found on the ESRI site, it is not related
to OSGeo FDO.  I can understand the confusion now. From what I could
find, it's been available since ArcGis 8.1 at least which is before FDO
API was released the first time by Autodesk.  I was not yet able to find
what FDO stand for in ESRI context but I'll still look into it.

RF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Nesom [mailto:kidsmake6 at msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:38 PM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

I think you may be right Brian. I see definite references to autodesk
fdo. I had seen some of the same on the esri website but they are not so
specific as to the technology now that I look them up.
http://edndoc.esri.com/arcobjects/9.1/java/arcengine/com/esri/arcgis/dat
asou
rcesoledb/package-summary.html
It seems they have an esrifdo2ado implementation for oledb.

I have asked esri about the connection count from an autodesk map FDO
and they said that as long as it is using the SDE client it should not
count against the sde connections now termed (direct connections). I
wouldn't be surprised if they made the realization and started charging
for those. They don't usually give anything away.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:34 PM
To: 'users at mapguide.osgeo.org'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

" ArcSDE FDO is ESRI software" - wow, really? I thought it was an
Autodesk wrapper around the ArcSDE client libraries. Did ESRI donate
software towards OSGEO?

Enterprise SDE would be available but the real question is whether you
can copy the dll's to other machine that will connect to that SDE
database. My guess is "yes" but I figured I ask here first.

cheers
brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Nesom [mailto:kidsmake6 at msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:01 PM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

You should probably check with ESRI, but as I understand it you can now
in
9.1 use unlimited sde connections from an esri software. If you use
direct connectons then you have a limited number of sde connections.
Unless I am mistaken the ArcSDE FDO is ESRI software. If someone knows
different that would be the killing point.
Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:52 AM
To: 'users at mapguide.osgeo.org'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

thanks Robert

I know you probably cannot answer this definitively since its an ESRI
question but if you have ArcSDE installed on your server, you should be
able to use the client libraries on the same server (or any server that
connects to that ArcSDE instance), right?

cheers
brian



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Fortin [mailto:robert.fortin at autodesk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:10 AM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

The ArcSDE client libs are not redistributable.  They need to come with
proper licensing from ESRI products.

RF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:17 AM
To: 'users at mapguide.osgeo.org'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

thanks Orest, that was the page I was looking for.

are the sde client libraries distributable?

cheers
brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Orest Halustchak [mailto:orest.halustchak at autodesk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:32 AM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

Hi Brian,
 
Yes, the source code for the ArcSDE provider is available as open source
(https://fdoarcsde.osgeo.org/).
 
It uses SDE client libraries. You have to make sure that you have these
dll's available and in your path: sde91.dll, sg91.dll, and pe91.dll. It
does not currently support raster, but it does support versioned
databases through the FDO long transaction versioning commands.
 
Thanks,
Orest.
 

________________________________

From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:26 PM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE



hello all

 

 a few questions on the ArcSDE SDO for Oracle/SQLServer

 

1) Is the source code available as part of the free community download?
If
no, any pointers on where to find out about Enterprise?

2) Does it use native SQL communication or does it rely on the SDEClient
libraries provided by ESRI?

3) How's the performance when compared to other SDE access layers? How
about ESRI tools?

4) Does it have Raster support?

5) Long shot - does it work with Versioned geodatabases? (e.g. delta
tables)

 

cheers

brian


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