[mapguide-users] How to use Java (JSP) development with IIS

[Maksim Sestic]

Totally agree. I really have no idea why Microsoft dropped J# from VS2005
onwards, but I'm not an expert on MS's strategies anyways:

(Visual J# Developer Center)

"...Retirement of J# language and Java Language Conversion Assistant from
future versions of Visual Studio

Since customers have told us that the existing J# feature set largely meets
their needs and usage of J# is declining, Microsoft is retiring the Visual
J# product and Java Language Conversion Assistant tool to better allocate
resources for other customer requirements. The J# language and JLCA tool
will not be available in future versions of Visual Studio. To preserve
existing customer investments in J#, Microsoft will continue to support the
J# and JLCA technology that shipped with Visual Studio 2005 through to 2015
as per our product life-cycle strategy..."

It's a pitty since I was so willing to maintain direct JTS/JSC .NET port
(http://code.google.com/p/tf-net/wiki/TfNet2Preview), all of it based on VS
premises. Still, without proper VS IDE support it's close to impossible.

BTW, there's a neat MG code sample named Scribble by Dennis Jonio
(http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/CodeSamples/ASP.Net/ScribbleApp)
involving a short guide to IKVM.NET (http://www.ikvm.net/). IKVM represents:
- A Java Virtual Machine implemented in .NET 
- A .NET implementation of the Java class libraries 
- Tools that enable Java and .NET interoperability 

 

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[mailto:mapguide-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Carl Jokl
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 14:33
To: mapguide-users at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] How to use Java (JSP) development with IIS



Maksim Sestic wrote:
> 
> 
> Carl
> 
> .NET did include J#, actually - VS2005 shipped with J# support. 
> However, as far as I know, VS2008 doesn't ship with J# support. IMHO, 
> J# made porting native Java code to .NET quite easy.
> 
> 

I have not used it myself to know and you may well be correct but the key
word you mention is porting. I was just saying that "Java" in .Net compiles
down to CLI bytecode which is not compatible with a Java Virtual Machine. In
that sense I don't call it "Real" Java in that it is not Java bytecode
running on a Java Virtual Machine. I must say from the original post that it
is still not completely clear what is desired. You can't run Java bytecode
in IIS because it is not intended to work with it. I don't know how much
Java experience inspiron2 has. It would help in terms of how I would answer.
The original post mentions not wanting to use .Net in which case that would
rule out J#. Tomcat is also mentioned. Tomcat is a self contained Servlet
Container that can act as a full blown web server running independently of
IIS. Tomcat will however run on port 8080. This can be changed to make it
run on port 80 assuming the computer Tomcat is running on does not run any
other web server. I am not sure for the reason for wanting to use IIS unless
this Java web application is to be integrated with an existing website which
runs on IIS. If that is the case it is going to be tough because Tomcat and
IIS are not designed to work together having come from two polorized
competing platforms. Some interoperability is possible but it is not going
to be easy. It would be a matter of one redirecting or pointing to content
on the other and also they can't both be running on Port 80.

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