[mapguide-users] How to use Java (JSP) development with IIS

Mon Sep 8 09:57:25 EDT 2008

I think the Java virtual machine in .Net is much better than J#, and 
thus J# is pretty obsolete:
http://www.ikvm.net/

Regards, Kenneth Skovhede, GEOGRAF A/S


Maksim Sestic skrev:
> Totally agree. I really have no idea why Microsoft dropped J# from VS2005
> onwards, but I'm not an expert on MS's strategies anyways:
>
> (Visual J# Developer Center)
>
> "...Retirement of J# language and Java Language Conversion Assistant from
> future versions of Visual Studio
>
> Since customers have told us that the existing J# feature set largely meets
> their needs and usage of J# is declining, Microsoft is retiring the Visual
> J# product and Java Language Conversion Assistant tool to better allocate
> resources for other customer requirements. The J# language and JLCA tool
> will not be available in future versions of Visual Studio. To preserve
> existing customer investments in J#, Microsoft will continue to support the
> J# and JLCA technology that shipped with Visual Studio 2005 through to 2015
> as per our product life-cycle strategy..."
>
> It's a pitty since I was so willing to maintain direct JTS/JSC .NET port
> (http://code.google.com/p/tf-net/wiki/TfNet2Preview), all of it based on VS
> premises. Still, without proper VS IDE support it's close to impossible.
>
> BTW, there's a neat MG code sample named Scribble by Dennis Jonio
> (http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/CodeSamples/ASP.Net/ScribbleApp)
> involving a short guide to IKVM.NET (http://www.ikvm.net/). IKVM represents:
> - A Java Virtual Machine implemented in .NET 
> - A .NET implementation of the Java class libraries 
> - Tools that enable Java and .NET interoperability 
>
>  
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> [mailto:mapguide-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Carl Jokl
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> Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] How to use Java (JSP) development with IIS
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>
>
> Maksim Sestic wrote:
>   
>> Carl
>>
>> .NET did include J#, actually - VS2005 shipped with J# support. 
>> However, as far as I know, VS2008 doesn't ship with J# support. IMHO, 
>> J# made porting native Java code to .NET quite easy.
>>
>>
>>     
>
> I have not used it myself to know and you may well be correct but the key
> word you mention is porting. I was just saying that "Java" in .Net compiles
> down to CLI bytecode which is not compatible with a Java Virtual Machine. In
> that sense I don't call it "Real" Java in that it is not Java bytecode
> running on a Java Virtual Machine. I must say from the original post that it
> is still not completely clear what is desired. You can't run Java bytecode
> in IIS because it is not intended to work with it. I don't know how much
> Java experience inspiron2 has. It would help in terms of how I would answer.
> The original post mentions not wanting to use .Net in which case that would
> rule out J#. Tomcat is also mentioned. Tomcat is a self contained Servlet
> Container that can act as a full blown web server running independently of
> IIS. Tomcat will however run on port 8080. This can be changed to make it
> run on port 80 assuming the computer Tomcat is running on does not run any
> other web server. I am not sure for the reason for wanting to use IIS unless
> this Java web application is to be integrated with an existing website which
> runs on IIS. If that is the case it is going to be tough because Tomcat and
> IIS are not designed to work together having come from two polorized
> competing platforms. Some interoperability is possible but it is not going
> to be easy. It would be a matter of one redirecting or pointing to content
> on the other and also they can't both be running on Port 80.
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