[mapserver-dev] non spatial tables and WFS

Steve Lime Steve.Lime at dnr.state.mn.us
Mon Jul 28 15:58:44 EDT 2008


I guess if someone is really gung ho on this topic then an RFC is in order...

Steve

>>> On 7/25/2008 at 2:03 PM, in message <488A239F.3070105 at mapgears.com>, Daniel
Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure what to think... part of me thinks this is an abuse of WFS 
> (WFS without an 'F'), but then if others (e.g. GeoServer) have done it 
> and set a precedent then we may have to do it as well now. At least if 
> we do it let's make sure we behave the same way as others with respect 
> to things not defined in the WFS spec like what to do with filters vs 
> data with no georef.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> Kralidis,Tom [Burlington] wrote:
>> Bart: agreed.  I think this would be a good addition to MapServer.  What do 
> others think of this concept?
>> 
>> ..Tom
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mapserver-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Bart van den Eijnden 
> (OSGIS)
>> Sent: Fri 25-Jul-08 13:28
>> To: Steve Lime
>> Cc: Kralidis,Tom [Burlington]; mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org 
>> Subject: Re: [mapserver-dev] non spatial tables and WFS
>>  
>> Hey Tom,
>> 
>> if a spatial filter is used then we would just return the full 
>> dataset/table (so ignore the spatial filter), at least that seems the 
>> most logical to me.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>> 
>> Steve Lime wrote:
>>> I was thinking about this last night and I remembered that is was the query 
> piece that gave
>>> me pause earlier. Since JOINs are not applied when rendering or querying one 
> couldn't use
>>> those attributes in queries. Maybe that's not a huge deal.
>>>
>>> For non-spatial tables we'd almost need a new layer type, "TYPE TABLE" and 
> then would need
>>> to behave accordingly.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>   
>>>>>> On 7/22/2008 at 5:19 PM, in message
>>>>>>         
>>> <2DC5CCA14756424BBBEE8B4B2E4A682F036CF454 at ecburexch1.ontario.int.ec.gc.ca>,
>>> "Kralidis,Tom [Burlington]" <Tom.Kralidis at ec.gc.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: mapserver-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
>>>>> [mailto:mapserver-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Steve Lime
>>>>> Sent: 22 July, 2008 5:28 PM
>>>>> To: mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org; Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS)
>>>>> Subject: Re: [mapserver-dev] non spatial tables and WFS
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean attribute tables JOINed to spatial data? If so 
>>>>> then that would be a relatively easy addition I think. I 
>>>>> remember looking into it when much of the gml work was done 
>>>>> but I don't recall what stopped me. I believe Tom K. was 
>>>>> interested in something similar.
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>> I agree this would be valuable (esp JOINed).  Having said this, what
>>>> would happen if spatial queries are passed against the non-spatial
>>>> dataset?  How would this affect advertising the dataset as a FeatureType
>>>> in a WFS, which advertises Filter Capabilities, or which MapServer
>>>> provides many spatial functions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>>>> On 7/22/2008 at 2:19 PM, in message 
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>> <488632DA.706 at osgis.nl>, "Bart 
>>>>>       
>>>>>>>> van den
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>> Eijnden (OSGIS)" <bartvde at osgis.nl> wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one of the features I've been missing in Mapserver WFS is 
>>>>>>         
>>>>> the ability 
>>>>>       
>>>>>> to serve out non spatial / administrative tables using WFS, 
>>>>>>         
>>>>> something 
>>>>>       
>>>>>> that Geoserver does support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would this be easy to add in Mapserver or not? Are there any known 
>>>>>> workarounds that might work out of the box already?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Bart
>>>>>>         
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