[MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning

Thu Dec 14 01:13:26 PST 2023

Hi Steve,

FOSS4G workshops are 4 hours long, so preparing materials will take the bulk of the time, then (assuming the workshop is accepted) travel costs to Estonia in July to present the workshop, and updating the materials based on feedback. 
I really like the pygeoapi workshop [1] which I presume Tom wrote, so will attempt to produce something similar. It would be good to have funding between $1000-$1500 to put towards completing this. 

For the OGC compliancy, it might be simplest to limit scope to just WMS with a kick-off budget of ~$500. This would include setting up automated tests, data, fixes required to pass the tests, and sorting out updating the certificate. If this approach works well then the other protocols can be added gradually. 

Other items to consider:

- A querystring request fuzzer (still work in progress) would likely raise several high risk vulnerabilities, so maybe some budget could also be set aside for this (Even has taken care of nearly all vulnerabilities so far). 
- Adding the OGC Maps API protocol to MapServer. 

The last detailed MapServer budget is the 2021 one in the wiki [3]. The release manager role and ad-hoc vulnerability fixes are still relevant so should be added to the 2024 budget.

The 2023 OSGeo budget lists MapServer as having a $3,500 budget with 2500$ added from sponsors - although from Mike's email maybe the sponsor money should have been $250. I'm unsure if any of this can roll-over into next year's budget. 

Finally would it be worth sending a reminder email to the mapserver-users list that it is possible to sponsor MapServer through the GitHub link? Maybe there are some large organisations with end-of-year budgets to spend. 

Seth

[1] https://dive.pygeoapi.io/
[2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023#OSGeo_Projects
[3] https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2021-Budget

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On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, at 10:56 PM, Steve Lime wrote:
>  Great ideas, I'd support both of them. The question becomes how much to allocate in each instance. I guess some basic questions I'd have (and maybe Mike knows) are: 
>  1. What's that standard per project budget allocation from OSGeo? I thought it was something like $1,500 but I'm not sure.
>  2. Is there any chance of getting $'s beyond that? The 2020 budget referenced earlier in the thread was submitted to the board but it was pretty clear there was no opportunity to secure funding beyond that base amount.
>  3. We have some $'s that have been donated via Paypal. I don't know the amount but there should be at least $1,000 available and that could be considered as another means of paying for this work. Again, Mike do you know what the MapServer balance is via the donate button?
>  4. We are still in 2023 - can we allocate this years' standard budget allocation to this work or otherwise roll it over? I'd like to know what our options are. We've not done a good job of taking advantage of the OSGeo funds available, even if they are somewhat limited.
> Seth, what level of support do you think you'd need?
> 
> --Steve
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM Even Rouault via MapServer-dev <mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>> Hi Seth,
>> 
>> thanks for putting that together. The 2 topics (workshop and CITE tests) 
>> look like excellent topics to be budgeted.
>> 
>> Even
>> 
>> Le 07/12/2023 à 11:02, Seth G via MapServer-dev a écrit :
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I've created a draft page for the budget at https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget
>> >
>> > I've also created two wiki pages for two items I'd like to work on next year, and to request some funds to help set aside time to work on them. Both were discussed with other members of the PSC at the recent OSGeo Community Sprint:
>> >
>> > A new MapServer Workshop, see details at https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-Workshop-2024
>> > This would target FOSS4G Europe next year. The deadline for submission is January 14th 2024 so it would be good to sort out a budget as soon as possible to be able to submit. Workshops are 4 hours in length.
>> >
>> > Automating and refreshing the MapServer OGC CITE tests - see https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-OGC-CITE-Tests
>> >
>> > Let me know your thoughts on the above,
>> >
>> > Seth
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>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Seth G wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> A wiki page sounds a good start. Increased test coverage and OGC Maps
>> >> support would be two items I'd like to propose.
>> >> We could also maybe use a GitHub Discussions poll to allow users to
>> >> vote on some open issues to look at fixing?
>> >>
>> >> I think any unused funds for the year remain with OSGeo and can't be
>> >> used for future years. Is it an option to get a 2023 budget approved to
>> >> avoid losing these funds for this year?
>> >> There is the OSGeo Codesprint in Vienna next week, and 5 of the PSC
>> >> members will be there so we could arrange a PSC meeting and sign things
>> >> off quite quickly.
>> >>
>> >> Seth
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> twitter: @geographika
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 10:44 PM, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) via MapServer-dev wrote:
>> >>> This is a good idea and something that we haven't done in some time.
>> >>> There was a 2020 budget outline
>> >>> (https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/OSGeo-2020-Budget) that
>> >>> was put together as an ask from the board. If I recall correctly, they
>> >>> basically only allocated the normal per project amount to the project.
>> >>> That's funding we've not taken explicit advantage of most years
>> >>> although I don't know what happens to those $'s if they go unclaimed.
>> >>> There is also a donation balance that could/should be tapped to fund
>> >>> activities.
>> >>>
>> >>> --Steve
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: MapServer-dev <mapserver-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf
>> >>> Of Jeff McKenna via MapServer-dev
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 1:00 PM
>> >>> To: 'MapServer Dev Mailing List' <mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>> >>> Subject: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi MapServer community (devs, users, packagers, promoters, all),
>> >>>
>> >>> I see other projects beginning early discussions on planning for 2024
>> >>> budget spending.  I would like to start a wiki page for the 2024 budget
>> >>> for MapServer.  I am planning on including those items
>> >>> never-funded-yet-heavily-relied-upon-by-users such as releases,
>> >>> packaging, testing/CI infrastructure maintenance, and documentation, as
>> >>> well as source code contributions (in other words, including the full
>> >>> dev community of MapServer in the budget).
>> >>>
>> >>> I think 2024 is a good time to create a realistic budget for MapServer,
>> >>> and then share that publicly with the FOSS4G community.  I think we'd
>> >>> be happily surprised that organizations are willing to support the
>> >>> sustainability of MapServer.  Worst-case scenario is that we have a
>> >>> publicly available realistic view of the cost of keeping MapServer
>> >>> reliable, secure, and fast, that we can expand upon in future years.
>> >>>
>> >>> Happy to read other thoughts here, from everyone passionate about MapServer.
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>> -jeff
>> >>>
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>> >>> co-founder of FOSS4G
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