[MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning

Thu Dec 14 05:59:50 PST 2023

For 2023, some of the funds were used for the Travis subscription for mapserver which is $828/yr (69/mo). So $172 would be available for the rest of the year. The PayPal donation would carry over. Project funds do not.

Mike

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From: Steve Lime <sdlime at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 8:31 AM
To: Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>
Cc: Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>, Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk>, MapServer Devs <mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning

Is there any chance of accessing the FY23 $'s? Problem is that we don't have a project bank account.

There was also a $1,310 donation via PayPal in March 2022 that looks to have come in via OSGeo via PayPal but was earmarked specifically for MapServer. Mike, I can send you a copy of that email if you'd like.

--Steve

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com> wrote:

Proposed default for FY24 per project is $1000 USD. Yes you can request more than that but there should be a plan for the additional amounts voted by PSC.

Funds from donation are 295.45 (looks like it was mostly in 2021 and a bit in 2022). 

Mike

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Michael Smith

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From: Steve Lime <sdlime at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 4:56 PM
To: Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>, Michael Smith <michael.smith.erdc at gmail.com>
Cc: Seth G <sethg at geographika.co.uk>, MapServer Devs <mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning

 Great ideas, I'd support both of them. The question becomes how much to allocate in each instance. I guess some basic questions I'd have (and maybe Mike knows) are: 

What's that standard per project budget allocation from OSGeo? I thought it was something like $1,500 but I'm not sure.
Is there any chance of getting $'s beyond that? The 2020 budget referenced earlier in the thread was submitted to the board but it was pretty clear there was no opportunity to secure funding beyond that base amount.
We have some $'s that have been donated via Paypal. I don't know the amount but there should be at least $1,000 available and that could be considered as another means of paying for this work. Again, Mike do you know what the MapServer balance is via the donate button?
We are still in 2023 - can we allocate this years' standard budget allocation to this work or otherwise roll it over? I'd like to know what our options are. We've not done a good job of taking advantage of the OSGeo funds available, even if they are somewhat limited.
Seth, what level of support do you think you'd need?

--Steve

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM Even Rouault via MapServer-dev <mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

Hi Seth,

thanks for putting that together. The 2 topics (workshop and CITE tests) 
look like excellent topics to be budgeted.

Even

Le 07/12/2023 à 11:02, Seth G via MapServer-dev a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I've created a draft page for the budget at https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-2024-Budget
>
> I've also created two wiki pages for two items I'd like to work on next year, and to request some funds to help set aside time to work on them. Both were discussed with other members of the PSC at the recent OSGeo Community Sprint:
>
> A new MapServer Workshop, see details at https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-Workshop-2024
> This would target FOSS4G Europe next year. The deadline for submission is January 14th 2024 so it would be good to sort out a budget as soon as possible to be able to submit. Workshops are 4 hours in length.
>
> Automating and refreshing the MapServer OGC CITE tests - see https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/MapServer-OGC-CITE-Tests
>
> Let me know your thoughts on the above,
>
> Seth
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> On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Seth G wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A wiki page sounds a good start. Increased test coverage and OGC Maps
>> support would be two items I'd like to propose.
>> We could also maybe use a GitHub Discussions poll to allow users to
>> vote on some open issues to look at fixing?
>>
>> I think any unused funds for the year remain with OSGeo and can't be
>> used for future years. Is it an option to get a 2023 budget approved to
>> avoid losing these funds for this year?
>> There is the OSGeo Codesprint in Vienna next week, and 5 of the PSC
>> members will be there so we could arrange a PSC meeting and sign things
>> off quite quickly.
>>
>> Seth
>>
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>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, at 10:44 PM, Lime, Steve D (MNIT) via MapServer-dev wrote:
>>> This is a good idea and something that we haven't done in some time.
>>> There was a 2020 budget outline
>>> (https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/OSGeo-2020-Budget) that
>>> was put together as an ask from the board. If I recall correctly, they
>>> basically only allocated the normal per project amount to the project.
>>> That's funding we've not taken explicit advantage of most years
>>> although I don't know what happens to those $'s if they go unclaimed.
>>> There is also a donation balance that could/should be tapped to fund
>>> activities.
>>>
>>> --Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: MapServer-dev <mapserver-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf
>>> Of Jeff McKenna via MapServer-dev
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 1:00 PM
>>> To: 'MapServer Dev Mailing List' <mapserver-dev at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> Subject: [MapServer-dev] 2024 budget planning
>>>
>>> Hi MapServer community (devs, users, packagers, promoters, all),
>>>
>>> I see other projects beginning early discussions on planning for 2024
>>> budget spending.  I would like to start a wiki page for the 2024 budget
>>> for MapServer.  I am planning on including those items
>>> never-funded-yet-heavily-relied-upon-by-users such as releases,
>>> packaging, testing/CI infrastructure maintenance, and documentation, as
>>> well as source code contributions (in other words, including the full
>>> dev community of MapServer in the budget).
>>>
>>> I think 2024 is a good time to create a realistic budget for MapServer,
>>> and then share that publicly with the FOSS4G community.  I think we'd
>>> be happily surprised that organizations are willing to support the
>>> sustainability of MapServer.  Worst-case scenario is that we have a
>>> publicly available realistic view of the cost of keeping MapServer
>>> reliable, secure, and fast, that we can expand upon in future years.
>>>
>>> Happy to read other thoughts here, from everyone passionate about MapServer.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> -jeff
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>>> co-founder of FOSS4G
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