Funny units for jpeg images

John Hockaday johnh at erin.gov.au
Wed Aug 2 17:54:22 PDT 2000


Hi,

This is probably a summary for this subject as I can now successfully
view greyscale jpegs and 8-bit colour tiffs using mapserv.

First of all thanks very much to Jason Maestri and Chris Stuber for
pointing me in the right direction to find the error.  Also thanks to
Mel VanderWal for pointing me to Todd Poston's arcview extension to
generate world files and finally to Steve and Aaron for considering the
future code aspects.

The problem was that I used XV to convert a colour jpeg to a greyscale
jpeg.  XV resized the image to suit my screen size and therefore its
pixel georeferencing was lost.  I solved this problem by loading the
jpeg image into ImageMagicks "display" X11 presentation tool and then
saving it as a greyscale jpeg.  ImageMagick did not resize the image to
fit the screen and therefore the pixel georeferencing was maintained.

The second problem was that my "imagine" tiff was 24-bit and did not
have a georeferenced world file.  The georeferencing was in the header
file of the original tiff file.  Again I used ImageMagick's "display"
tool to "quantize" the tiff file into a 256 colour (8-bit) image.  The
next problem was the tiff world file.  Todd Poston's Arcview extension
allowed me to generate this file and I was finally able to view the
colour tiff with mapserv.

I greatly appreciate each persons help.  It shows that the combination
of each little suggestion can solve a problem.  This is the most
responsive list on which I have been subscribed and I can see that it
is beneficial to many other people.  Keep up the good work.

Thanks again for all your help.


John Hockaday

> > From: "Stephen Lime" <steve.lime at dnr.state.mn.us>

> 
> I sort of agree. The ESRI naming standards are stupid with respect to
> world files. The .wld is now the ESRI standard and I see no real reason
> to support the old stuff. (.jpw and .tfw are already supported) We'll likely
> be moving from the current raster engine to a new one that supports a
> much wider variety of formats soon. 
> 
> Supporting the .shp extension is a good idea. The non-extension filename
> is a hold over from the shapelib library for reading shapefiles. Since a 
shapefile
> isn't a single file I suppose it made sense conceptually at the time. Send the
> diffs if you've got 'em.
> 
> Steve
> 
> Stephen Lime
> Internet Applications Analyst
> 
> Minnesota DNR
> 500 Lafayette Road
> St. Paul, MN 55155
> 651-297-2937
> 
> >>> <ender at titan.lab.csuchico.edu> 08/01/00 03:41AM >>>
> 
> Steve, other developers:
> 
>   This brings up one of those little things that I've wanted to fix but
> haven't gotten around to.  Mapserver really needs to follow the rules for
> reading world files.  The rules are: if the extention has three
> characters, the world file will be the first and last character of the
> extention followed by a 'w'.  For example: image.tif -> image.tfw,
> image.gif -> image.gfw, image.jpg -> image.jgw.
> 
>   If the extention has more than three characters, the 'w' is appended to
> the complete extention: image.tiff -> image.tiffw, image.jpeg ->
> image.jpegw.
> 
>   If the extention is missing, the 'w' is added to the filename: image ->
> imagew.
> 
>   I think many of our new users problems stem from the non-standard file
> names Mapserver uses.
> 
>   Another place where a change could be made is in the mapfile, when you
> are specifying the data for a shapefile base feature theme, the mapserver
> will not allow you to put the .shp extention on this file.  All other data
> types allow the extention, except for the .shp.  This is very easy to
> compensate for, so I wonder if there is a reason for this being the way it
> is...  If not, I will submit diffs to implement this change.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> 
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Mel VanderWal wrote:
> 
> > Hey all.
> > 
> > If you need to create world files in ArcView, Todd Poston recently posted a 
good
> > extension (and the source code) on the ESRI ArcScripts site
> > 
(http://gis.esri.com/arcscripts/details.cfm?CFGRIDKEY=B718A422-5E5A-11D4-9432005
08B0CB419).
> > 
> > I only tested it a little, but Todd knows what he's doing, so it's probably 
solid.
> > For MapServer users, use the .apr instead of the extension, so you can 
change one
> > line in the script QDIR.View.WriteWorldFile.Click.  Then georeference your 
images
> > in that apr.
> > 
> > Change:
> > theFN =
> > 
FileName.Merge(theISrc.GetSrcName.GetFileName.ReturnDir.AsString,theISrc.GetSrcN
ame.GetFileName.GetBaseName
> > + "w")
> > To:
> > theFN = theISrc.GetSrcName.GetFileName
> > theFN.SetExtension("tfw")
> > 
> > or else the world file will get a .tifw extension instead of a .tfw 
extension,
> > which is OK in ArcView, but MapServer won't recognize it.  One ArcView world 
file
> > convention is simply to add a "w" to the image's file extension, so that's 
the way
> > many world files are named.  It's probably minor for most MapServer users, 
but I
> > spent awhile figuring out why an image wouldn't georeference.  (Steve: Maybe 
to
> > make using the same data a little easier... - wishlist item?)
> > 
> > 
> > imap at chesapeake.net wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello, This isnt exactly right...  THe worldfile X/Y is the upper left
> > > pixel, not bottom right.  I have found that matching projections is not an
> > > exact science.  Sometime you need to adjust the X/Y and map units to 
stretch
> > > the raster to get a tight fit.
> > >
> > > I have done a couple of these..  You have to begin with PROJ and knowing
> > > the precise projection and central meridian.  That should get it close,
> > > then you can tweak the map units in the X/Y to shore up the edges.
> > >
> > > Also, keep in mind that rasters may never match their vector counterparts,
> > > due to basemap mismatch and thinning etc.
> > >
> > > It very well could be, that your JPG is a different projection???
> > >
> > > I have several *very* nice raster maps here (Mountain High Maps) that I am
> > > unable
> > > to match the base projection with anything in PROJ.  Since there is no
> > > metadata
> > > for the images, it requires much guesswork.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Chris Stuber (mapsurfer)
> > > Silicon Mapping Solutions, Inc
> > >
> > > Jason Maestri wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure why your data don't line up. The world file is okay, the 
only
> > > > coordinates that are specified in the esri type world
> > > > files are the X and Y of the bottom right corner.  They seem to be 
really
> > > > close to what you think they should be, so I'd imagine
> > > > that the world file is not your problem.  Mapserver doen't care what
> > > > projection your data are in, so there isn't any place to
> > > > specify projections.  I'd use arcview or grass or something to make sure 
they
> > > > really do line up, and further explore the problem.
> > > >
> > > > --Jason
> > > >
> > > > John Hockaday wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to get a jpeg to load as a background image with vector
> > > > > data on top of it.  Both are in geographical coodinates however, when 
I
> > > > > load one on top of the other they seem to be in different projections.
> > > > >
> > > > > The world file for the jpeg looks like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------
> > > > >             0.000450
> > > > > 0
> > > > > 0
> > > > >            -0.000450
> > > > > 150.000914
> > > > > -33.998391
> > > > > ------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > The image is supposed to be from TL(150, -34) to BR(151.5, -35).  That
> > > > > is 1.5 degrees by 1 degree with the top left corner at 150 degrees 
long
> > > > > and -34 degrees lat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing out on specifying a decimal degrees unit for my layers in
> > > > > the map file?  The map file is attached.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would be greatfull for any information if someone else has used
> > > > > georeferenced jpegs and vector shapefiles in a geographic coordinate
> > > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Hockaday
> > > > >
> > > > >   
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > >
> > > > > END # Map File
> > 
> > --
> > Mel VanderWal
> > GIS Programmer / Manager
> > GAIA Consultants Inc.
> > Suite 306, 822-11th Avenue SW
> > Calgary, Alberta
> > Canada
> > T2R 0E5
> > Phone: (403) 571-7216
> > Fax: (403) 571-7211
> > www.gaiaenv.com 
> > vanderwalm at gaiaenv.com 
> > 
> > 
> 




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