[Mapserver-users] Mapserver WMS as server to ArcIMS service

[Paul Ramsey]

Noone answered my question though :)
Isn't there an ESRI-only cascade facility built into recent versions of  
ArcIMS which allows ArcIMS to cascade against ArcMap servers? If so,  
then there is a chink in the wall through which we can stuff real  
cascading :)
Paul

On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 07:04 AM, Ed McNierney wrote:

> No, the only thing the Geography Network does for WMS servers is permit
> them to advertise that they exist.  No interoperability with ArcIMS
> servers is provided through the Geography Network.
>
> 	- Ed
>
> Ed McNierney
> President and Chief Mapmaker
> TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
> 73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
> North Chelmsford, MA  01863
> Phone: (978) 251-4242  Fax: (978) 251-1396
> ed at topozone.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simpson, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Simpson at ssc.nasa.gov]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:55 AM
> To: mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] Mapserver WMS as server to ArcIMS  
> service
>
>
> That was the same conclusion we came to; hard to believe there is not a
> mechanism to grab data from a WMS in an ArcIMS service.  Isn't the
> geography network WMS?  I don't think it even supports cascading
> ArcIMS servers.
>
> Thanks very much for the responses,
> Drew.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Francois.Doyon at CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca
> [mailto:Jean-Francois.Doyon at CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:10 PM
> To: pramsey at refractions.net; ed at topozone.com
> Cc: Andrew.Simpson at ssc.nasa.gov; mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] Mapserver WMS as server to ArcIMS  
> service
>
>
> Yup, last I checked that was my understanding as well ... ArcIMS can
> only
> SERVE WMS layers, but cannot ingest them, and therefore cannot cascade
> WMS
> ones.
>
> I've successfully used the IMS emulator to connect my ArcMap/ArcCatalog
> to a
> MapServer service. If, however you mean you want a given ArcIMS server
> to
> cascade layers provided by the IMS emulator (Thinking it's another
> ArcIMS
> server), I think that's untested so far.  I would suspect the emulator
> is
> not evolved or complete enough to support that functionality.  If you
> really
> want to you could try to track the requests your IMS emulator gets from
> your
> partner's ArcIMS, read the XML (AXL), and try to figure out where it's
> not
> working.  The IMS emulator is Perl, so it's not completely mind-bending
> ...
> You should be able to make sense of it all, maybe even make the
> necessary
> improvements if it's worth it to you (And feed them back to Refractions
> :)
>
> My .02$ ... Hope this helps!
>
> J.F.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pramsey at refractions.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:36 PM
> To: Ed McNierney
> Cc: Simpson, Andrew; mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Mapserver-users] Mapserver WMS as server to ArcIMS  
> service
>
>
> Is this correct? I was of the understanding that the ArcIMS WMS
> connector exposes the ArcIMS data as a WMS server. So if you have set  
> up
>
> the WMS connector on ArcIMS you can use a WMS client to view the ArcIMS
> data. In fact, I have seen it in action in the government here, and  
> have
>
> cascaded a mapserver service onto an ArcIMS server which used the WMS
> connector.
>
> It is the opposite direction, the ArcIMS server *pulling* data from a
> WMS server, which I whink it impossible... yes?
>
> P.
>
> Ed McNierney wrote:
>> Drew -
>>
>> The ArcIMS "OGC Connector" allows an ArcIMS server to connect to WMS
>> layers served by OGC-compliant servers.  It's a one-way pipe (we call
> it
>> the "OGC Diode") because it does NOT permit WMS clients to read data
>> from ArcIMS servers.  But it sounds like this is something your ArcIMS
>
>> partners should already be able to do.
>>
>>     - Ed
>>
>> Ed McNierney
>> President and Chief Mapmaker
>> TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
>> 73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
>> North Chelmsford, MA  01863
>> ed at topozone.com
>> (978) 251-4242
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     *From:* Simpson, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Simpson at ssc.nasa.gov]
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:18 PM
>>     *To:* 'mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu'
>>     *Subject:* [Mapserver-users] Mapserver WMS as server to ArcIMS
> service
>>
>>     Good Afternoon,
>>
>>     Has anyone had any success using Mapserver WMS as a source for an
>>     ArcIMS service?  Would like to share some raster data with an
>>     offsite group that only speaks ArcIMS.
>>
>>     Used the IMS Emulator to connect with ArcMap and ArcCatalog
>>
> (http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/data2/wilma/mapserver-users/0110/ 
> msg00298.
> html
> ),
>>     which worked very well.
>>
>>     Sorry for the slightly off topic question.
>>
>>     Thanks for any info,
>>
>>     Drew.
>
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