[Mapserver-users] Researching the Capabilities of MapServer

Jean-Francois.Doyon at CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca Jean-Francois.Doyon at CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca
Mon Mar 1 07:04:06 PST 2004


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Darren,
=20
MapScript is basically the API to the mapserver core functionality.  =
There
are bindings to many common languages, such as PHP, Python and Perl, =
PHP
being the most widely used one ... Personally I prefer Python.  Reading =
the
MapScript documentation should give you a pretty good idea of what you =
might
achieve with it.  GeoServer is an entirely different, Java-based =
project.
It is NOT a mapping server however, but an OGC WFS Server (See
http://www.opengis.org/ <http://www.opengis.org/>  for info on that).  =
Some
people have had some success with Java MapScript lately I believe also =
...
You could also look at http://deegree.sourceforge.net/
<http://deegree.sourceforge.net/>  which provides a mapping server, but =
over
WMS only I think.
=20
As to your specific functionality questions, you can achieve everything =
but:
=20
- Geocoding: You can use mapserver to display the results, but =
mapserver
itself is purely designed to render maps, so the geocoding (Figuring =
out the
coordinates from an address) itself would have to be done separately.  =
There
are web services that offer such functionality (Such as our Postal Code
lookup Service), although I guess you guys at stats can have much =
better
data than we do :) This is a good example of using MapScript to bind
MapServer's functionality with external logic to extend it, and is a =
common
application.
=20
- Topology searching: Don't think there is any functionality to do this =
in
the mapscript API.  The idea comes up every once in a while that this =
would
be a nice to have, but some would argue as to whether this belongs in =
the
mapserver itself.  Some good solutions would be to supplement MapServer =
with
PostGIS ( http://postgis.refractions.net =
<http://postgis.refractions.net>  )
which provides topological functionality, binding somehow to GEOS =
directly (
http://geos.refractions.net <http://geos.refractions.net>  ), using the =
Java
Topology Suite, and so on, and once the desired location has been =
figured
out, use MapServer to display the map zoomed in to it.
=20
Hope this helps,
=20
Jean-Fran=E7ois Doyon=20
Internet Service Development and Systems Support / Soutien de =
syst=E8mes et
developement de services Internet=20
GeoAccess Division / Division G=E9oAcc=E8s=20
Canada Center for Remote Sensing / Centre canadien de =
t=E9l=E9d=E9tection=20
Natural Resources Canada /  Ressources naturelles Canada=20
Phone / T=E9l=E9phone: (613) 992-4902=20
Fax / T=E9l=E9copieur: (613) 947-2410=20
http://atlas.gc.ca <http://atlas.gc.ca/> =20

=20
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: mapserver-users-admin at lists.gis.umn.edu
[mailto:mapserver-users-admin at lists.gis.umn.edu]On Behalf Of
Darren.Cope at statcan.ca
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 8:57 AM
To: mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
Subject: [Mapserver-users] Researching the Capabilities of MapServer



Hello all,=20

I am new to the world of MapServer, and have many questions, mostly
regarding the capabilities of MapServer.  At this point I am merely
researching the possibility of using MapServer as a replacement for an
existing ArcIMS setup.  I have set up the basic Itasca demo, and have =
it
(mostly) working with some of our own data.  From what I have seen, =
basic
.cgi MapServer is not able to perform many of the tasks necessary (see
below).  However, I am beginning to learn of the other available =
projects
(e.g. GeoServer, MapScript, etc.) that work with MapServer to do many =
of
these things.  At this point, I have not used any of these other tools, =
and
no next to nothing about them (the MapServer that I have set up =
currently
allows only the basic .cgi functionality [pan, zoom, query] of the =
Itasca
Demo.)  I would like to know if the features listed below are possible, =
and
if so, how I would go about implementing these features (e.g. do I need =
PHP,
dhtml, GeoServer, MapScript, etc., etc.)

What I would like is a full featured application which can perform the
following tasks:=20

	-       search based on text field(s) and then zoom to matching
record(s)  (e.g. enter a city name and a street name, and zoom to that
street)

	-       geocode addresses (e.g. interpolate positions along a street
based on from/to address ranges and zoom to that point)

	-       search based on topology (e.g. find where two streets
intersect and zoom to that location)=20
-       have an "identify" tool which pops up attributes of feature(s) =
when
they are clicked on=20
-       measure distance between points selected by the user=20
-       draw buffers around a clicked point based on a user defined =
radius=20
-       highlight a selected feature and retain its highlighting until =
the
user "clears" it=20

Also, I would appreciate a brief run-down of the applications which =
work
with MapServer (e.g. GeoServer, MapScript, etc.), how they relate to
MapServer (and each other), and what each one does.

I realize this email covers a broad range of topics, and is asking a =
lot--so
thanks in advance for helping me out with all these questions!

Darren Cope=20
Statistics Canada/Statistique Canada=20
Geography Division/Division de la g=E9ographie=20
Jean Talon 3D5=20
Ottawa, Canada=20
(613) 951-6461=20


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2>MapScript is basically the API to the mapserver core =
functionality. =20
There are bindings to many common languages, such as PHP, Python and =
Perl, PHP=20
being the most widely used one ... Personally I prefer Python.  =
Reading the=20
MapScript documentation should give you a pretty good idea of what you =
might=20
achieve with it.  GeoServer is an entirely different,=20
Java-based project.  It is NOT a mapping server however, but =
an OGC=20
WFS Server (See <A =
href=3D"http://www.opengis.org/">http://www.opengis.org/</A>=20
for info on that).  Some people have had some success with Java =
MapScript=20
lately I believe also ... You could also look at <A=20
href=3D"http://deegree.sourceforge.net/">http://deegree.sourceforge.net/=
</A> which=20
provides a mapping server, but over WMS only I =
think.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As to=20
your specific functionality questions, you can achieve everything=20
but:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>-=20
Geocoding: You can use mapserver to display the results, but mapserver =
itself is=20
purely designed to render maps, so the geocoding (Figuring out the =
coordinates=20
from an address) itself would have to be done separately.  =
There are=20
web services that offer such functionality (Such as our Postal Code =
lookup=20
Service), although I guess you guys at stats can have much better data =
than we=20
do :) This is a good example of using MapScript to bind MapServer's=20
functionality with external logic to extend it, and is a common=20
application.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>-=20
Topology searching: Don't think there is any functionality to do this =
in the=20
mapscript API.  The idea comes up every once in a while that this =
would be=20
a nice to have, but some would argue as to whether this belongs in the =
mapserver=20
itself.  Some good solutions would be to supplement MapServer with =
PostGIS=20
( <A =
href=3D"http://postgis.refractions.net">http://postgis.refractions.net</=
A> )=20
which provides topological functionality, binding somehow to GEOS =
directly ( <A=20
href=3D"http://geos.refractions.net">http://geos.refractions.net</A> ), =
using the=20
Java Topology Suite, and so on, and once the desired location has been =
figured=20
out, use MapServer to display the map zoomed in to =
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hope=20
this helps,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004>
<P><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Jean-Fran=E7ois Doyon</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Internet Service Development and Systems =
Support /=20
Soutien de syst=E8mes et developement de services Internet</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>GeoAccess Division / Division =
G=E9oAcc=E8s</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Canada Center for Remote =
Sensing / Centre=20
canadien de t=E9l=E9d=E9tection</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3D"Courier New" =
size=3D2>Natural=20
Resources Canada /  Ressources naturelles Canada</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Phone / T=E9l=E9phone: (613) =
992-4902</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Fax / T=E9l=E9copieur: (613) =
947-2410</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><A href=3D"http://atlas.gc.ca/"=20
target=3D_blank>http://atlas.gc.ca</A></FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D919344914-01032004><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  mapserver-users-admin at lists.gis.umn.edu=20
  [mailto:mapserver-users-admin at lists.gis.umn.edu]<B>On Behalf Of=20
  </B>Darren.Cope at statcan.ca<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 01, 2004 =
8:57=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> =

  [Mapserver-users] Researching the Capabilities of=20
  MapServer<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Hello all,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I am new to the world of MapServer, =
and have=20
  many questions, mostly regarding the capabilities of MapServer.  =
At this=20
  point I am merely researching the possibility of using MapServer as a =

  replacement for an existing ArcIMS setup.  I have set up the =
basic Itasca=20
  demo, and have it (mostly) working with some of our own data.  =
>From what=20
  I have seen, basic .cgi MapServer is not able to perform many of the =
tasks=20
  necessary (see below).  However, I am beginning to learn of the =
other=20
  available projects (e.g. GeoServer, MapScript, etc.) that work with =
MapServer=20
  to do many of these things.  At this point, I have not used any =
of these=20
  other tools, and no next to nothing about them (the MapServer that I =
have set=20
  up currently allows only the basic .cgi functionality [pan, zoom, =
query] of=20
  the Itasca Demo.)  I would like to know if the features listed =
below are=20
  possible, and if so, how I would go about implementing these features =
(e.g. do=20
  I need PHP, dhtml, GeoServer, MapScript, etc., etc.)</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">What I would like is a full =
featured=20
  application which can perform the following tasks:</FONT> </P>
  <UL>
    <P><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman">-       search=20
    based on text field(s) and then zoom to matching record(s)  =
(e.g. enter=20
    a city name and a street name, and zoom to that street)</FONT></P>
    <P><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman">-      =20
    geocode addresses (e.g. interpolate positions along a street based =
on=20
    from/to address ranges and zoom to that point)</FONT></P>
    <P><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman">-       search=20
    based on topology (e.g. find where two streets intersect and zoom =
to that=20
    location)</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman">-       have =
an=20
    "identify" tool which pops up attributes of feature(s) when they =
are clicked=20
    on</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman">-       =
measure=20
    distance between points selected by the user</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman">-       draw =
buffers=20
    around a clicked point based on a user defined radius</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
    face=3D"Times New Roman">-       =
highlight a=20
    selected feature and retain its highlighting until the user =
"clears"=20
    it</FONT> </P></UL>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Also, I would appreciate a brief =
run-down of=20
  the applications which work with MapServer (e.g. GeoServer, =
MapScript, etc.),=20
  how they relate to MapServer (and each other), and what each one=20
  does.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I realize this email covers a broad =
range of=20
  topics, and is asking a lot--so thanks in advance for helping me out =
with all=20
  these questions!</FONT></P>
  <P><B><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>Darren Cope</FONT></B> =
<BR><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>Statistics Canada/Statistique =
Canada</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>Geography Division/Division =
de la=20
  g=E9ographie</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>Jean =
Talon 3D5</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>Ottawa, Canada</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D1>(613) 951-6461</FONT> =
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