new mapserver site for Central America; thanks for all the help!

[Puneet Kishor]

On Mar 12, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Emilio Mayorga wrote:

> Puneet & Blaise,
>
> Thank you for your feedback. I test with Firefox and IE, but have
> never tried a KHTML-based browser (either Safari or Konqueror). I
> didn't realize that Gecko was more forgiving of non-standard HTML than
> KHTML, that's great to know.

Well, it may not be true, but that is my guess. Also, keep in mind that 
Webkit (Apple's extended fork of KHTML) is slightly different, although 
Apple contributes its changes back to the KHTML project. But the Safari 
team has been pretty conscientious about sticking to standards. It is 
surprising to see Gecko doing things differently from Safari.


> I don't have access to a Mac, and while
> the site is served on a Linux server, I don't have a local linux box
> where I could conveniently test on Konqueror. Is there a KHTML-based
> browser that runs on Windows that you'd recommend?

Unfortunately, I think you are out of luck. A quick search reveals 
(from wikipedia)

> KHTML and WebKit-based browsers
> The open source KHTML layout engine is developed by the KDE project. 
> WebKit is an open-source fork of that engine by Apple Computer.
> Konqueror
> Safari
> ABrowse
> Atlantis [1]
> OmniWeb
> Shiira
> SkyKruzer
> SunriseBrowser [2]

None of the browsers listed above are for Windows. They are either 
Linux, or mainly Webkit (Mac OS X), or some other OS.

>
> Unfortunately, my html is old and in table hell, but getting the site
> to work on KHTML browsers will be a nice long-term goal.
>

yeah, I took a peek at the source, and you are right about that. On the 
other hand, if your app is not going to be used by Konqueror/Safari 
type users (definitely we are a minority), then it may not be worth it 
for you to fix it, especially if you can't lay your hands on those 
browsers to test.


>
>
> On 3/12/06, Puneet Kishor <punkish at eidesis.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:03 AM, blaise wrote:
>>
>>> Same, nice work Emilio, but same, on a my linux box, it displays well
>>> in
>>> Mozilla and Firefox, but the image is misplaced in Konqueror.
>>
>> Makes sense. Safari is based on KHTML, the basis for Konqueror. 
>> Emilio,
>> keep in mind, for most every part, Safari is totally standards
>> compliant. So are Gecko-based browsers (Mozilla, Firefox, Camino,
>> etc.), but they may be more forgiving of non-standard html. I could be
>> very wrong in this, but generally if it works in Safari, it is
>> standards-compliant, and will likely work in other standards-compliant
>> browsers. There are a few Safari (Webkit) specific features, but they
>> degrade gracefully (although the validation service complains).
>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday 12 March 2006 13:00, Puneet Kishor wrote:
>>>> Hi Emilio,
>>>>
>>>> Nice work. Some feedback from the Mac side... looks nice in Camino,
>>>> but
>>>> the image is misplaced in Safari. The image shows up in the top left
>>>> corner of the browser instead of in the image box. Hope you can fix
>>>> that.

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Puneet Kishor