[Foss4g2009] Re: [Marketing] Re: [Foss4g2008loc] Integration showcase: Feedback

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks for your thoughts Geoff,
I'm listening closely to your thoughts about what worked with the OGC 
integration showcase and I'd like to see the OGC play a central role in 
coordinating the showcase. (I've already heard some very positive noises 
from the OGC about getting involved).

Raj, Carl,
Are you in a position to commit the OGC to the FOSS4G2009 Integration 
Showcase now, so that we can advertise this at the upcoming 2008 FOSS4G?

For those who haven't seen it, the wiki tracking the showcase is at:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geospatial_Integration_Showcase


Tim Bowden wrote:
> Thanks Geoff,
>
> looks like we need to significantly rejig our integration showcase
> efforts for Sydney.  I believe if we do no more than duplicate what's
> already been done it will be a failure otherwise.  Your insights are
> valuable in helping us plan this.  Assuming we take Geoff's advice wrt
> the OGC, who would like to take the lead in getting them involved for
> Sydney?
>
> Issues:  Getting OSGeo projects to involve at the same level of
> participation at the proprietary vendors would require considerable
> resources for each project.  Perhaps each project would need a
> commercial sponsor or co-sponsors (ie, Refractions sponsors
> PostgreSQL/PostGIS, Lisasoft Geoserver, DM Solutions Mapserver, Autodesk
> (or local reseller?) Mapguide OS etc).  This way each would have the
> ability to maximise the marketing potential of the exercise.  Without
> that, I suspect it is much harder for a project to find the resources to
> fully participate.  Maybe this, and lack of a credible event scenario
> has been part of the problem to date?
>
> If we go down this route, can we get the OGC to bend their minds this
> way quickly enough to announce their in principle support in time for
> the Cape Town closing plenary Sydney sales slot?  Probably not, which is
> a pity.
>
> Regards,
> Tim Bowden
>
> On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 11:52 -0700, Geoff Zeiss wrote:
>   
>> I have experienced some very successful interoperability (geospatial)
>>  workshops
>>
>> Important features - the OGC (greg buehler) organized them, this makes
>>  the workshop to be perceived as non-denominational - they focussed on
>>  open standards (wms, wfs, gml) - there were ~10 vendors involved, at
>>  FOSS4G I would suggest encouraging ESRI, Intergraph, MapInfo and other
>>  closed source vendors to participate, I expect that Autodesk would
>>  want to participate and focus on FDO - participation was organized in
>>  advance, greg put a lot of effort into signing up vendors and ensuring
>>  there were enough servers and clients from different vendors to make
>>  it interesting - primarily technical people from the vendors were
>>  involved - it was a mainstage event, so it got a lot of attention -
>>  there were significant publicity benefits to the participants, not
>>  participating was a negative - there was a scenario around a disaster
>>  management theme that made it very clear to the audience and
>>  participants how important interoperability is in the real world
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> geospatial.blogs.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: marketing-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <marketing-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> To: marketing at lists.osgeo.org <marketing at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Sent: Fri Sep 19 23:50:40 2008
>> Subject: [Marketing] Re: [Foss4g2008loc] Integration showcase: Feedback
>>
>> Tim,
>> I think these are very good questions. In case you don't get many answers
>> right now due to people being busy with other stuff you might want to add
>> it to the Conference and/or Marketing Committee agenda so we don't loose
>> sight of it again.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arnulf.
>>
>> On Sat, September 20, 2008 06:44, Tim Bowden wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking for feedback on how the integration showcase has gone so
>>> far.  From what I understand, not many sponsors have been overly
>>> interested.  If so, this seems to be the same as Victoria last year. Given
>>> I'm helping the Sydney bid, and we're planning one, I'd like to
>>> get some ideas as to what works and doesn't.
>>>
>>> 1. Is it a case of not selling the showcase aggressively enough?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Has it been too hard for sponsors to understand how to use it or what
>>> they can do with it?
>>>
>>> 3. Do the sponsors just not see it as adding value for them?  From a
>>> FOSS pov, it's clear the value that integration between different
>>> ecosystems brings for us, but perhaps that same value proposition isn't
>>> there for vendors.  Thoughts?
>>>
>>> 4. Is there anything that could be done to increase the value
>>> proposition for sponsors?
>>>
>>> I understand things are a little busy right now, so if this is best left
>>> on the back burner till later, that's fine.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim Bowden
>>> --
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>>> when you make it again.
>>>
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>> Arnulf Christl
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