[Journal] FOSS4G 2011 Special Edition

[Daniel Ames]

Barry is right that the academic readers won't pay much attention to
the ads. But by the same token they wont be offended by them either.
So let's go for a multi-stream funding system. Ads, page charges, etc.
and see if we can make something self-sustaining!

- Dan
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Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE
Associate Professor, Geosciences
Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
dan.ames at isu.edu
geology.isu.edu
www.mapwindow.org




On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Barry Rowlingson
<b.rowlingson at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
> <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It seems hard to get enough volunteer support for the Journal as it
>> stands. I fear splitting it into two (2) separate publications, one a
>> magazine and the other an academic journal, would make this situation
>> even worse.
>>
>> I'm not from academia, but I know getting articles publishes in peer
>> reviewed journals is important for those with academic careers, so let
>> me ask this question:
>>
>> Would it seriously damage the value of having a peer reviewed journal
>> published in the OSGeo Journal if we had ads? I'm not talking about
>> sleezy ads for presecription drugs form some crime mafia drug lab. I'm
>> thinking of adds from quality companies offering services related to
>> programming and GIS.
>>
>> If ads would damage the value of peer review publishing in the
>> journal, we could shoot for an annual peer reviewed issue with no ads
>> in which we ask the authors for a donation to help fund the journal.
>> The other "regular" issues could carry ads.
>
> I suspect the advertising revenue from an academic journal would be
> pretty minimal. Academic journals don't sit on coffee tables for
> browsing. Mostly articles are found via search engines or references
> and read (and then often forgotten). Authors also habitually send PDFs
> of their articles around on request. Nobody reads it for the ads.
>
>  If you stuck the ads in the middle of the papers (and I don't mean on
> a separate page, I mean in the middle of the text) then it might get
> some eyeballs, but not much.
>
>  The place for ads is in a more general magazine, the kind of thing
> that does look good printed out, where you can sell back cover space,
> smaller 1/4 page ads and so on. However ad-spending on the print
> sector is massively down. Have you noticed newspapers going out of
> business?
>
>  An online version in the magazine style could exist, but it would
> have to have some kind of editorial/quality control so it wasn't just
> another collection of blogs...
>
> Barry
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