[Journal] FOSS4G 2011 Special Edition
Daniel Ames
dan.ames at isu.edu
Wed Sep 28 17:52:31 EDT 2011
Barry is right that the academic readers won't pay much attention to
the ads. But by the same token they wont be offended by them either.
So let's go for a multi-stream funding system. Ads, page charges, etc.
and see if we can make something self-sustaining!
- Dan
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Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE
Associate Professor, Geosciences
Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
dan.ames at isu.edu
geology.isu.edu
www.mapwindow.org
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Barry Rowlingson
<b.rowlingson at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Sunburned Surveyor
> <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It seems hard to get enough volunteer support for the Journal as it
>> stands. I fear splitting it into two (2) separate publications, one a
>> magazine and the other an academic journal, would make this situation
>> even worse.
>>
>> I'm not from academia, but I know getting articles publishes in peer
>> reviewed journals is important for those with academic careers, so let
>> me ask this question:
>>
>> Would it seriously damage the value of having a peer reviewed journal
>> published in the OSGeo Journal if we had ads? I'm not talking about
>> sleezy ads for presecription drugs form some crime mafia drug lab. I'm
>> thinking of adds from quality companies offering services related to
>> programming and GIS.
>>
>> If ads would damage the value of peer review publishing in the
>> journal, we could shoot for an annual peer reviewed issue with no ads
>> in which we ask the authors for a donation to help fund the journal.
>> The other "regular" issues could carry ads.
>
> I suspect the advertising revenue from an academic journal would be
> pretty minimal. Academic journals don't sit on coffee tables for
> browsing. Mostly articles are found via search engines or references
> and read (and then often forgotten). Authors also habitually send PDFs
> of their articles around on request. Nobody reads it for the ads.
>
> If you stuck the ads in the middle of the papers (and I don't mean on
> a separate page, I mean in the middle of the text) then it might get
> some eyeballs, but not much.
>
> The place for ads is in a more general magazine, the kind of thing
> that does look good printed out, where you can sell back cover space,
> smaller 1/4 page ads and so on. However ad-spending on the print
> sector is massively down. Have you noticed newspapers going out of
> business?
>
> An online version in the magazine style could exist, but it would
> have to have some kind of editorial/quality control so it wasn't just
> another collection of blogs...
>
> Barry
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