[Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16
Jamila Javanshir
jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au
Thu Nov 23 14:53:09 PST 2017
Hi Cameron
Thanks for the feedback and yes, we understand that it will take a while before Australia can host the international event again. I just wanted to say that Melbourne is here to help once you have agreed on the next steps for the National and Regional editions of FOSS4G.
I also wanted to clarify that MCB is not a convention center - we are a not-for-profit organization that represents Melbourne as a destination. We have close to 200 hotel, venue and other industry partners and can help you with any size of the event.
We hope to hear from you when the right time comes. With best regards,
Jamila
Jamila Javanshir
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 24 November 2017 5:54 AM
To: Jamila Javanshir <jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au>; aust-nz at lists.osgeo.org
Cc: Emelia Hinge <emelia.hinge at melbournecb.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16
Jamila,
I don't believe Australia is ready to hold an international FOSS4G for at least 2 years, and probably more. I believe we should not be considered for an international FOSS4G until we have successfully run a national (Aust/NZ) and then a regional (Asia/Pacific) FOSS4G, probably starting with 50 to 100 delegates.
And for the first few years we should be looking to run an event at as low a cost as possible - ideally getting a venue for free, or close to free. (I expect that will be a tough ask for you).
I believe I say this with authority as I chaired the international FOSS4G in 2009, and up to a couple of weeks ago had been on the international FOSS4G committee since 2009.
So good to hear you interest, but I think you are significantly premature in reaching out.
On 23/11/17 10:44 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:
> Re: FOSS4G-ANZ
>
> Dear All
>
> Greeting from Melbourne Convention Bureau! We represent a partnership between Victorian Government, City of Melbourne and private enterprise and our role is to attract national and international meetings and conferences to Melbourne.
>
> We are interested in a discussion about hosting FOSS4G-ANZ in Melbourne and what support you may require from our side should you decide to go ahead with it.
>
> We have been working on the opportunity to bring the International FOSS4G Summit to Melbourne for a few years now, so would be happy to help.
>
> With kind regards
>
>
> Jamila Javanshir
> Senior Business Development Manager, Inaugural Events
> d|+61 3 9002 2305
> m|+61 429 553 175
> jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au
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> Head Office Melbourne
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> Level 28, 727 Collins Street
> Melbourne Vic 3008
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> 1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
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> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
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> Hi all,
>
> For those interested in being involved in a FOSS4G-ANZ conference for 2018, I've set up a Doodle pole for a kickoff meeting next week. Please let us know when you are available.
>
> https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w
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> Meeting location: irc://freenode.net#osgeo
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> Primary email list: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz
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> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work together as a group?) -broadly scope the event, determine key details (what is it? when is it?)
> * How many days?
> * Venue type?
> * Target size?
> * Target cost?
> * Program?
> * What location? (how we select it)
> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
> * Potential bodies to manage finances: SSSI, OSGeo, OSM State of the Map, other
> * Potential champions: LINZ, GA, CSIRO,
> -begin spreading the word!
>
> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement'
> -broadly scope the event
> * How many days?
> * Venue type?
> * Target size?
> * Target cost?
> * Program?
> * What location?
> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
>
>
> Re setting up FOSS4G conferences, the OSGeo Conference Committee has been building up a cookbook over the years. It is not complete, but is a starting point:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
>
> Cheers, Cameron
>
> On 22/11/17 9:19 pm, John Bryant wrote:
>> Hi all, I can see the below message on the online version of the
>> thread, but it didn't come through to my email. I see it was posted
>> early this morning, but I couldn't see it online until this evening.
>> In case I'm not the only one who didn't get it, I'll paste it here:
>>
>> Apologies for the cross posting, but I figured it was worth making
>> sure a few key people/groups are aware of this discussion.
>>
>> I second Daniel's comments.
>>
>> As an intro, I work at NIWA and have been active in the NZ FOSS
>> GIS community for some years (QGIS, Postgis, Geonetwork, GMT,
>> GDAL, etc...), and a semi-regular at FOSS4G when I can.
>> There are a few events that this could link in with, and a few
>> local SIGs & forums that may also be interested, but if
>> TechnologyOne are interested in linking this to their QGIS
>> workshops, I think that would be an ideal start, possibly even in
>> both countries??
>>
>> Some other NZ groups/events we could perhaps work with:
>>
>> NZ Spatial Excellence awards
>> Horizons Regional GIS forum
>> NZOSA
>> ALGIM
>> NZ Emerging Spatial Professionals
>> ...
>>
>> My time & availability is limited, but very happy to help where I
>> can to progress this.
>>
>>
>> Brent Wood
>>
>>
>> On 21 November 2017 at 22:50, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com
>> <mailto:alexgleith at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel and others
>>
>> I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and AU.
>>
>> Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is
>> supportive. And my earlier comments around 'organisation' really
>> are around how we can have an account and seed funding to start
>> from. I think doing that through an existing organisation sounds
>> way better than creating an entity.
>>
>> Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right.
>> Somewhere in there needs to be the organising of a relationship
>> with a body that can handle the money, though. Once we've got a
>> bit of a prospectus, I can talk to SSSI, potentially. Are there
>> other organisations may be interested?
>>
>> And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of
>> video meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of Dec.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz
>> <mailto:dsilk at linz.govt.nz>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New
>> Zealand and
>> attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
>>
>> On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I see the first steps, roughly, as:
>> >
>> > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do
>> we work
>> > together as a group?)
>>
>> ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two
>> countries?
>>
>> One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
>> - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
>> - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year
>> - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the
>> host country
>>
>> As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS
>> user conference
>> in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already
>> consisted of
>> 2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on
>> QGIS, one day
>> on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
>>
>> There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G
>> event and I'm
>> keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward
>> making that
>> happen.
>>
>> On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in
>> the recent
>> > FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
>>
>> That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will
>> be valuable.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
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