[Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri Nov 24 08:55:03 PST 2017


Hi Jamilia,

Thanks for the feedback. I suspect someone will be getting back to you 
asking for advice on venues based on criteria we decide upon.


On 24/11/17 9:53 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:
> Hi Cameron
>
> Thanks for the feedback and yes, we understand that it will take a while before Australia can host the international event again. I just wanted to say that Melbourne is here to help once you have agreed on the next steps for the National and Regional editions of FOSS4G.
>
> I also wanted to clarify that MCB is not a convention center - we are a not-for-profit organization that represents Melbourne as a destination. We have close to 200 hotel, venue and other industry partners and can help you with any size of the event.
>
> We hope to hear from you when the right time comes. With best regards,
>
> Jamila
>
>
>
> Jamila Javanshir
> Senior Business Development Manager, Inaugural Events
> d|+61 3 9002 2305
> m|+61 429 553 175
> jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au
> www.melbournecb.com.au
>
> Head Office Melbourne
> Collins Square Tower Two
> Level 28, 727 Collins Street
> Melbourne Vic 3008
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2017 5:54 AM
> To: Jamila Javanshir <jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au>; aust-nz at lists.osgeo.org
> Cc: Emelia Hinge <emelia.hinge at melbournecb.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16
>
> Jamila,
>
> I don't believe Australia is ready to hold an international FOSS4G for at least 2 years, and probably more. I believe we should not be considered for an international FOSS4G until we have successfully run a national (Aust/NZ) and then a regional (Asia/Pacific) FOSS4G, probably starting with 50 to 100 delegates.
>
> And for the first few years we should be looking to run an event at as low a cost as possible - ideally getting a venue for free, or close to free. (I expect that will be a tough ask for you).
>
> I believe I say this with authority as I chaired the international FOSS4G in 2009, and up to a couple of weeks ago had been on the international FOSS4G committee since 2009.
>
> So good to hear you interest, but I think you are significantly premature in reaching out.
>
>
> On 23/11/17 10:44 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:
>> Re: FOSS4G-ANZ
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> Greeting from Melbourne Convention Bureau! We represent a partnership between Victorian Government, City of Melbourne and private enterprise and our role is to attract national and international meetings and conferences to Melbourne.
>>
>> We are interested in a discussion about hosting FOSS4G-ANZ in Melbourne and what support you may require from our side should you decide to go ahead with it.
>>
>> We have been working on the opportunity to bring the International FOSS4G Summit to Melbourne for a few years now, so would be happy to help.
>>
>> With kind regards
>>
>>
>> Jamila Javanshir
>> Senior Business Development Manager, Inaugural Events
>> d|+61 3 9002 2305
>> m|+61 429 553 175
>> jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au
>> www.melbournecb.com.au
>>
>> Head Office Melbourne
>> Collins Square Tower Two
>> Level 28, 727 Collins Street
>> Melbourne Vic 3008
>>
>>
>>
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>>      1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
>>         (Cameron Shorter)
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:22:03 +1100
>> From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>> To: aust-nz at lists.osgeo.org,
>> 	australian-qgis-user-group at googlegroups.com, OSM Australian Talk List
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>> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> For those interested in being involved in a FOSS4G-ANZ conference for 2018, I've set up a Doodle pole for a kickoff meeting next week. Please let us know when you are available.
>>
>> https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w
>>
>> Meeting location: irc://freenode.net#osgeo
>>
>> Primary email list: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz
>>
>> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
>> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work together as a group?) -broadly scope the event, determine key details (what is it? when is it?)
>> * How many days?
>> * Venue type?
>> * Target size?
>> * Target cost?
>> * Program?
>> * What location? (how we select it)
>> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
>> * Potential bodies to manage finances: SSSI, OSGeo, OSM State of the Map, other
>> * Potential champions: LINZ, GA, CSIRO,
>> -begin spreading the word!
>>
>> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
>> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement'
>> -broadly scope the event
>> * How many days?
>> * Venue type?
>> * Target size?
>> * Target cost?
>> * Program?
>> * What location?
>> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
>>
>>
>> Re setting up FOSS4G conferences, the OSGeo Conference Committee has been building up a cookbook over the years. It is not complete, but is a starting point:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
>>
>> Cheers, Cameron
>>
>> On 22/11/17 9:19 pm, John Bryant wrote:
>>> Hi all, I can see the below message on the online version of the
>>> thread, but it didn't come through to my email. I see it was posted
>>> early this morning, but I couldn't see it online until this evening.
>>> In case I'm not the only one who didn't get it, I'll paste it here:
>>>
>>>       Apologies for the cross posting, but I figured it was worth making
>>>       sure a few key people/groups are aware of this discussion.
>>>
>>>       I second Daniel's comments.
>>>
>>>       As an intro, I work at NIWA and have been active in the NZ FOSS
>>>       GIS community for some years (QGIS, Postgis, Geonetwork, GMT,
>>>       GDAL, etc...), and a semi-regular at FOSS4G when I can.
>>>       There are a few events that this could link in with, and a few
>>>       local SIGs & forums that may also be interested, but if
>>>       TechnologyOne are interested in linking this to their QGIS
>>>       workshops, I think that would be an ideal start, possibly even in
>>>       both countries??
>>>
>>>       Some other NZ groups/events we could perhaps work with:
>>>
>>>       NZ Spatial Excellence awards
>>>       Horizons Regional GIS forum
>>>       NZOSA
>>>       ALGIM
>>>       NZ Emerging Spatial Professionals
>>>       ...
>>>
>>>       My time & availability is limited, but very happy to help where I
>>>       can to progress this.
>>>
>>>
>>>       Brent Wood
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 November 2017 at 22:50, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:alexgleith at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       Hi Daniel and others
>>>
>>>       I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and AU.
>>>
>>>       Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is
>>>       supportive. And my earlier comments around 'organisation' really
>>>       are around how we can have an account and seed funding to start
>>>       from. I think doing that through an existing organisation sounds
>>>       way better than creating an entity.
>>>
>>>       Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right.
>>>       Somewhere in there needs to be the organising of a relationship
>>>       with a body that can handle the money, though. Once we've got a
>>>       bit of a prospectus, I can talk to SSSI, potentially. Are there
>>>       other organisations may be interested?
>>>
>>>       And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of
>>>       video meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of Dec.
>>>
>>>       Regards,
>>>
>>>       Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz
>>>       <mailto:dsilk at linz.govt.nz>> wrote:
>>>
>>>           Hi all
>>>
>>>           For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New
>>>           Zealand and
>>>           attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
>>>
>>>           On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>           >
>>>           > I see the first steps, roughly, as:
>>>           >
>>>           > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do
>>>           we work
>>>           > together as a group?)
>>>
>>>           ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two
>>>           countries?
>>>
>>>           One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
>>>           - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
>>>           - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year
>>>           - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the
>>>           host country
>>>
>>>           As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS
>>>           user conference
>>>           in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already
>>>           consisted of
>>>           2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on
>>>           QGIS, one day
>>>           on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
>>>
>>>           There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G
>>>           event and I'm
>>>           keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward
>>>           making that
>>>           happen.
>>>
>>>           On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>           >
>>>           > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in
>>>           the recent
>>>           > FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
>>>
>>>           That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will
>>>           be valuable.
>>>
>>>           Cheers
>>>           Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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