[OSGeo Oceania] OSM Community issue

Thu Dec 10 16:36:41 PST 2020

Hi Folks,

I also saw the exchange and was appalled by the language and the inuendo in some of the posts. It has been a long standing issue around election time for a couple of years. There are also multiple issues that are getting mixed together in this instance.

I then went looking for a code of conduct which does not exist for OSM. There is an ‘Etiquette’ document https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette and some suggestion that there are admins and occasionally ‘moderators’ for some lists. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists

I contacted an Admin on the talk-list asking if any moderation has taken place in regard to both the original thread and the subsequent call to action and was advised that ..

Those details on moderation are very stale. The Board today asked for proposals for code of conduct and moderation processes. There's a group working on it, and expect we'll have something in place in the new year. 

I personally think OSM needs to get their own house in order first.  We could support a code of conduct and moderation processes without getting into the current spat.

I do however agree that we (Oceania) should be as inclusive as possible, have a good code of conduct and stomp on any similar behaviour as quickly as possible as it does not help the community at all.

My two cents worth

Cheers – Phil

Aka tastrax

From: Oceania <oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Greg Lauer
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2020 10:21 AM
To: oceania at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo Oceania] OSM Community issue

Hi All,

I am sure most of you will be aware of the 'Call to Take Action' being circulated in the OSM community. Several members have asked OSGeo Oceania to endorse the call to action. See links in email below.

We have our first board meeting (as in with the new Board) this afternoon and I have put it as an agenda item. I am personally hesitant for the Board to make a decision on endorsing the call to action with out some barometer of support from members and/or community for such a action (or no action).

Can I ask our members and community at large to put some thought into the appropriate action that OSGeo Oceania should undertake. For example do we agree to simply endorse the Call to action, or do we issue a statement. Or do we not support the Call to Action? I realize this is short notice but that is out of our control :-(

Some of the community (including myself) have made some comments on the working document (link below this email)

The meeting starts at 2pm. If anybody wanted to speak to the Board on this matter we can make some time available via a Zoom invitation.

Thanks

Greg

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From: Celine Jacquin < <mailto:celija at gmail.com> celija at gmail.com>
Date: 12/10/2020 4:57:57 PM 
Subject: [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community 
To:  <mailto:osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org> osmf-talk at openstreetmap.org,  <mailto:talk at openstreetmap.org> talk at openstreetmap.org

Hello everybody
I hope you are all well

We, several groups, chapters, organizations and individuals, have reacted to the conversation in the osm-talk-list ( <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085692.html) considering that it is an incident symptomatic of the problem we have faced for many years in the community, which is one of the greatest obstacles to diversity at all levels of OSM. Time to make a real change.

That is why we have developed a beginning of statement on the desirable mechanisms to work solidly on the rules of coexistence and improve diversity.

We bring it to your attention and invite anyone who feels represented to sign it. Translations are in preparation (any help is welcome): 

 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing> https://docs.google.com/document/d/130JCTX9ve4H4ORXznmIVTpXiN3TX8nRGA8ayuTZ9ECI/edit?usp=sharing

On behalf of the signatories

Best regards

Céline Jacquin

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