[OSGeo Oceania] [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] Community consultation: OO Org QGIS Special Interest Group Charter

Sat Nov 28 05:27:52 PST 2020

Hey all
So I am back in OSGeo land as I have finished up a mad month on my other
volunteer project. Bad that they coincide with each other...
I will get my head around above and come back to you on it.
Thanks for your work on this.
Cheers
Em

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 2:57 PM John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew, thanks a lot for continuing to push this forward. It has been a
> couple of months since I last looked at this, and I haven't really had a
> detailed look at the SIG concept yet.
>
> I'm 'out of the office' for the next few days, but would be happy to join
> in this discussion when I get back, and have a proper chance to refresh my
> memory and get up to speed on SIGs.
>
> One brief thought, it feels like it would be good to consider a free (or
> very inexpensive) tier of membership. I suspect many of us can't justify
> (or can't afford) to spend much, but could contribute in other ways.
>
> Cheers
> John
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 9:46 am Andrew Jeffrey, <aljeffrey83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> I agree the SIG shouldn't bring about any duplication of the processes
>> that the OO currently does. A SIG as defined in the guidelines
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U3R3wSHR9jo9VgywmAQqKswrylwjxw9-/edit>
>> should be "enabling OSGeo Oceania members to interact, share knowledge,
>> organise events, and collaborate on a selected, targeted topic within the
>> scope of OSGeo Oceania". So a SIG should be complementary to the OO
>> function and allow the interested community members to drive engagement in
>> that area without the OO board having to do it all. Like you say though,
>> open communication between the SIG and the OO board is key in making sure
>> there is no overlap being introduced. Also to be clear the SIG isn’t
>> seeking “sponsorship” as such but we do want to be able to collect a
>> membership fee for people/orgs wanting to be involved, allowing them to
>> fund items that maybe other OO members don’t see as important. I don’t see
>> this taking away from conference sponsorship and this idea will ultimately
>> sink or swim depending on whether the SIG members have an appetite to fund
>> the items in our scope.
>>
>> As for the conflict of interest, to be honest I don't know the answer in
>> regards to how that should be dealt with. I think we need to add something
>> in the charter, would removing those people from the proposal and voting
>> process be enough? How does OO deal with this? I don’t want to rule local
>> devs out of working on this because they belong to the group, but we also
>> don’t want to become the entry point to company XYZ.
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:35 AM Adam Steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Andrew and all the QGIS SIG proposers
>>>
>>> Thanks, I think this is a perfect use of OSGeo Oceania as a backing
>>> organisation :)
>>>
>>> My only reservation with any SIG proposal is that effort isn't
>>> duplicated about events and marketing, and also that a funding from a
>>> small pool of interested parties (relative to other parts of the
>>> world) is able to be effectively spread among the whole community. For
>>> an example it would be a bit awry to see a SIG gather a heap of
>>> funding at the expense of conference sponsorships. I guess in that
>>> case the SIG could also sponsor conferences? This goes the other way
>>> too - the existence of a well connected SIG makes it easier for OO to
>>> fund a QGIS feature (for example) if it decides to do so.
>>>
>>> I think clear, constant and open communication between OO and the SIG
>>> will make those concerns go away.
>>>
>>> In writing this I did work my thoughts through to  a serious question:
>>> How will the SIG deal with conflicts of interest? A stated aim of the
>>> SIG is to fund development, what will the SIG do if all the key QGIS
>>> developers in the region are also in the group of people making
>>> decisions about buying developer time?
>>>
>>> My only comment on the charter itself is that if you want, you can
>>> link to the existing Berlin Code of Conduct:
>>> https://berlincodeofconduct.org/ - with which the upcoming OO CoC
>>> should be 100% compatible.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 04:37, Andrew Jeffrey <aljeffrey83 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > The OSGeo Oceania board has approved an initiative for members to form
>>> Special Interest Groups (SIGs) within the OO community.
>>> >
>>> > A SIG is a way for community members to collaborate around common
>>> interests which in this case is QGIS.
>>> >
>>> > In establishing a SIG, the OO board requires that the group proposing
>>> the SIG put forward a charter which outlines the Aim and Scope under which
>>> the SIG will operate.
>>> >
>>> > Myself, Emma Hain, John Bryant, Nathan Woodrow and Nyall Dawson would
>>> like to start a QGIS SIG which can be used to benefit QGIS users in our
>>> community. To get things started we have come up with a charter that we
>>> would like to make available for community consultation. As this charter
>>> currently reflects our input we would like to put this out for discussion
>>> to see if what we are proposing is on the right path for the community. At
>>> the moment everyone with the link below has "comment" permissions, but
>>> "edit" permissions can be granted on request if you would like to get more
>>> involved and you're welcome to do so.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrewntrC0N1r6mfZdo1AdPhe2qTEaN5hDA2pcL0mrvI/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >
>>> > I also just want to be upfront that this SIG is proposing that there
>>> be a membership fee associated with the group. The funds raised by the
>>> membership will be stored with the OO org and then used by the SIG on items
>>> as scoped out in the charter. The idea with the membership is not to "make
>>> money" but to pool our small contributions to give us better "buying power"
>>> for lack of a better term. As a SIG within the OO org we can participate in
>>> crowdfunding campaigns, engage a dev to develop a feature important to us
>>> but might not be recognised as important to the larger QGIS project, or
>>> engage a trainer to provide professional development via Zoom, the types of
>>> things that are hard to do as individuals or as a user group with no funds
>>> etc. The membership arrangement also allows us to offer membership to
>>> organisations which will become a way for them to support QGIS and their
>>> local QGIS community. Ideally, this is where a majority of the funds would
>>> come from as we don't want an individual to be excluded due to a "fee",
>>> which is also covered in the charter. I'm available as I'm sure the other
>>> proposers are to discuss the intention of this further and in the open on
>>> this list.
>>> >
>>> > Any questions feel free to ask or if you prefer to comment on the
>>> charter that is fine too.
>>> >
>>> > I look forward to discussing this with you.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> > Andrew
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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