[OpenLayers-Dev] RFC: Resolution to only change License with Unanimous Vote

Erik Uzureau erik.uzureau at metacarta.com
Wed Oct 10 11:16:37 EDT 2007

In the interest of keeping  proper discussions in their proper
threads, I have started a new thread for the discussion of the idea of
making public records of PSC votes.

Since we did receive unanimous support for requiring unanimous support
for license changes, I have gone ahead and modified the wiki to
reflect this change in policy:


If there are any more thoughts on this issue, or on the way in which I
changed that wiki, please voice them here.

Otherwise, please let's discuss the idea of recording PSC Votes in
that other thread, "RFC: Archiving PSC Votes".

Hopefully this will clear things up for people.

On 10/10/07, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
> My initial reaction to a wiki record of all votes was "what a great
> idea", but upon thinking further, I've cooled to the idea.
> My experience is that most things that go to a vote are usually fairly
> obvious and get a unanimous show support. It gives the proposer an
> acknowledgment they are on the right track.
> If there is debate on the issue, the proposal usually modified 2 or 3
> times and re-voted on. Should we record all the votes for the proposal?
> And cut and paste how someone initially said no, then said yes after
> certain conditions were met?
> So the cost of recording a vote is probably ~ 15 mins. Is it worth it?
> What do we gain? I'm yet to have a need to return to a historic decision
> with a desire to know who voted for what. Maybe it would be useful for
> someone studying the effectiveness of Open Source. I can't think of any
> legal value that we gain above recording votes in an email list.
> And for collecting reasons for people voting "-1", this information can
> be collected in the comments section of a wiki RFC already.
> Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:46:55AM -0500, Erik Uzureau wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/9/07, Paul Spencer <pspencer at dmsolutions.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Also, I think we should maintain a record of the results of votes.
> >>> The way MapGuide runs their PSC.  An RFC is prepared in the wiki, a
> >>> link is forwarded to dev for discussion, then after a suitable
> >>> waiting period a motion to vote is presented by a PSC member.  After
> >>> the vote, the proponent of the RFC updates the list with the voting
> >>> record.  For issues like this one, this seems like a bit of overkill
> >>> but at least the main text of the RFC and the voting history could be
> >>> plunked into the wiki after a vote?
> >>>
> >> How do people feel about this? In the past, there have been very few
> >> issues which have required a vote -- the majority of the voting has
> >> just been for releases so far.
> >>
> >
> > I think it's important to have a public record of who voted what way on
> > a particular question. I don't feel a strong need to have an RFC first
> > -- the mailing lists are a fine publicly accessible historical resource
> > -- but a short summary and a list of the vote results in the wiki seems
> > a great idea.
> >
> > Our rules for 'no controversial changes without consulting the PSC' not
> > requiring many votes simply means that we haven't had many controversial
> > changes, as far as I'm concerned. It becomes more of a question for
> > things like 'Translation' -- large, sweeping changes that you want
> > everyone to agree with ahead of time. In general, I try to break these
> > things up into seperate tasks -- so even though I wrote
> > http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/RFC/ParsingAndDisplayingRemoteData as an
> > "RFC", I realized that there were parts of it that were simply obvious
> > code-deduplication, and doing that is unlikely to make anyone upset (so
> > long as the end result is the same on both ends), so I just went ahead
> > and wrote the patches.
> >
> > So, not having lots of votes is cool, but having public records for the
> > votes we do have is also cool.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> --
> Cameron Shorter
> Systems Architect, http://lisasoft.com.au
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