[OpenLayers-Dev] OSGeo Project Sponsorship
Dave McIlhagga
dmcilhagga at dmsolutions.ca
Sat Nov 15 20:09:26 EST 2008
A small note from the peanut gallery.
I hope folks can see the broader benefit of channeling funds through
OSGeo for sponsorship -- although 25% is a chunk of change -- remember
that the projects ARE the foundation and in that sense, that 25% also
goes back to benefiting the project in other means.
Sometimes there is a perception that OSGeo is arm's length from the
technical activities -- but nothing can be further from the truth. It
is an entity whose exclusive membership is those seen as the most
deserving from within the community developing OSGeo technologies,
with a board selected from within this same community. OSGeo needs to
find ways to sustain itself - in part through volunteers and in part
through hard cash -- just as the projects themselves need to sustain
themselves.
On the surface - I understand the desire to avoid going through OSGeo
for project sponsorship - but in some sense, think of this as a small
way in which OpenLayers can help sustain the broader foundation we
collectively benefit from.
Dave
Dave McIlhagga
www.dmsolutions.ca
On 15-Nov-08, at 4:58 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 04:02:30PM -0500, John R. Frank wrote:
>>>> In the case of going with the OSGeo Project Sponsorship program,
>>>> the
>>>> OSGeo acts as our fiscal agent. As a 501(c)(3) (US tax code)
>>>> organization, they can accept tax deductible contributions toward
>>>> OSGeo
>>>> projects.
>>>
>>> Their application is still pending acceptance. So, it could be a
>>> few
>>> months before they start giving out receipts for tax purposes.
>>
>> The tax exempt status of the donation channel is probably crucial
>> --- at
>> least for US-based donors. Other solutions can't really compete with
>> OSGEO without that also having tax exempt status. 501c3
>> applications are
>> not complicated but they take calendar time.
>>
>> OTOH, until OSGEO gets approved to process donations to projects,
>> they are
>> an expensive savings account :-)
>>
>> If a donor shows up *before* OSGEO can make the donor's donation tax
>> exempt, we might as well just open a bank account at regular bank.
>
> I'm not sure who "we" is in this case -- It's either a person (which
> then means that a single person is taking on the liability) or
> "MetaCarta". The latter has serious social issues with it, since the
> only way I can see collecting money in that situation is people
> writing
> a check directly to MetaCarta -- which hardly seems likely to go over
> well. (Perhaps there is some other way that I'm missing?)
>
>> 1) PSC agrees that OL should find a tax exempt donation channel
>>
>> 2) PSC hopes that OSGEO will soon be that channel
>>
>> 3) PSC agrees to seek donations while #2 sorts itself out
>
> Note that we can still *accept* donations even before #2 sorts itself
> out, and I think that's worthwhile. If people are willing to dnate
> money
> to an organization which is not yet completed with 501c3 status -- as
> they might in the "open our own bank account" above -- then I don't
> see
> a reason to tell them "no, you shouldn't". (It's not clear from the
> above if you agree on this point.)
>
> Regards,
> --
> Christopher Schmidt
> MetaCarta
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