[Live-demo] Links for

Stefan Hansen stefan.hansen at lisasoft.com
Mon Feb 2 17:00:23 PST 2009

Hi Doug and Cameron!

Cameron Shorter wrote:
> The wiki page is still focused toward the FOSS4G 2008 effort, and needs
> to complete revamp to focus on FOSS4G 2009.
> In particular, we need to:
> * document the steps required to create the LiveDVD to facilitate others
> helping out. (noting that we lever UbuntuGIS and DebianGIS.

There is already such a document for creating an iso-image from an
existing Ubuntu-installation:


(I just noticed some bits are not general enough, but I will fix that as
soon as I have time)

If you want to create a LiveDVD based on Debian, the better option might
be to use LiveHelper. Mark and I considered using LiveHelper for Ubuntu,
but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work for Ubuntu.

> * document the current status (like versions of software, outstanding
> issues etc)

There is also already a wiki-page for outstanding issues, but it would
be much better to have an issue tracker.

> * create a schedule of releases and milestones up to FOSS4G 2009. (I
> started one here which you might want to use:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Press_Releases )
> * contact projects that should update or add their software to the
> LiveDVD and help them get involved.
> * Create a disk space budget for the Live DVD, determining how much
> space is dedicated to:
> ** Xubuntu packaged files
> ** Windows installers
> ** Data
> ** Any other FOSS4G material (maybe workshop notes and presentations if
> we have the space)

Disc space is currently no problem. Our current version is slightly
bigger than 1.8GB. So there is still almost 3GB left...

More important is is to limit the applications and services that are
initially loaded during the boot process, since this has a rather big
effect on the startup time and the required amount of memory. Currently
our LiveDVD loads Postgres, Tomcat, Apache, etc immediately at the
start.Most likely in later version the user will have to start them
himself if he wants to use them. The DVD boots just so much quicker...


> Once you get into the swing of things, I suggest you start blogging
> about what you are doing, which will encourage others to get involved.
> Add your blog to: http://planet.osgeo.org
> Also, I suggest joining this live-demo email list, UbuntuGIS and
> DebianGIS email lists, linked from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS
> and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis
> Also, the people on the debiangis IRC have been very helpful to me so
> far and I'd expect they would extend that to you too.
> irc://irc.oftc.net#debian-gis
> Any questions, please ask. I'll help where I can, but you will get
> better technical answers from the techies on the above lists.
> Good luck, and I look forward to hearing how you go.
> Doug White wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>> Best to get me on the mobile 0414-341-583 during the day.
>> Can have a chat tomorrow morning if it suits you, I am looking after
>> the kids for the next couple of hours.
>> Doug.
>> Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> Thanks Doug,
>>> I like your suggestions.
>>> What is your phone number, I seem to have misplaced it.
>>> I'd like to talk about the LiveDVD with you.
>>> Doug White wrote:
>>>> Cameron,
>>>> I few suggestions inline, I have shuffled the workshop and tutorial
>>>> details more towards the top and tried to group them together.
>>>> Hope this helps?
>>>>> ---------------------------- Original Message
>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>> Subject: [Foss4g2009] Draft Press Release, FOSS4G Call for workshops
>>>>> From:    "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date:    Sat, January 31, 2009 11:12 pm
>>>>> To:      "foss4g2009" <foss4g2009 at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Finished my first cut at the "Call for Workshops" press release, which
>>>>> also outlines the highlights for 2009's FOSS4G. I've covered a lot
>>>>> here.
>>>>> I'm hoping to get some hefty reviewing on this, including what is
>>>>> being
>>>>> proposed as well as how I'm saying it.
>>>>> Please insert review comments into an email response.
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Press_Release_5
>>>>> ----
>>>>>   FOSS4G 2009 Call for Workshops and Tutorials
>>>>> Sydney, Australia. 2 February 2009.
>>>>> The Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial (FOSS4G)
>>>>> conference is
>>>>> pleased to announce a Call for Workshops and Tutorials for the 2009
>>>>> conference, being held 20-23 October, 2009 in Sydney, Australia.
>>>>> FOSS4G is the international "gathering of tribes" for open source
>>>>> geospatial communities, where developers and users show off their
>>>>> latest
>>>>> software and projects. 2009's theme of "User Driven" highlights the
>>>>> power of Open Source to integrate with existing systems. As such,
>>>>> expect
>>>>> to see presentations about Proprietary products integrating with
>>>>> Geospatial Open Source, as well as Pure Open Source presentations.
>>>> FOSS4G is the international "gathering of tribes" for open source
>>>> geospatial communities. The theme for the FOSS4G 2009 conference
>>>> will be "User Driven".  Users and developers are encouraged present
>>>> their latest projects and software to demonstrate the power of Open
>>>> Source for system integration through a series of workshop sessions
>>>> and tutorial presentations.  Session participants should expect to
>>>> see presentations on both geospatial open source and propriety
>>>> software integration along with pure open source solutions.
>>>> -- Moved the following paragraphs around a bit...
>>>>> Workshop and Tutorial sessions allow presenters to
>>>>> lead attendees through applications, integration solutions, or other
>>>>> topics in an interactive environment. Half-day workshops (3 hours)
>>>>> will
>>>>> be held in computer rooms on the first day.
>>>> Workshop Information
>>>> Workshop sessions provide a forum for presenters to lead attendees
>>>> through applications, integration solutions, or other topics in an
>>>> interactive environment. These half-day (3 hour) sessions will be
>>>> held in computer rooms on the first day of the conference and are
>>>> expected to provide a practical hands-on experience for participants
>>>> that follow along with the instructor.
>>>> All workshop rooms will be equipped with computers (two students
>>>> sharing one system) to support this vision.
>>>> Workshop computers will pre-installed with a basic image containing
>>>> standard packages running in a Windows XP environment. Instructors
>>>> will need to discuss pre-installation requirements with the
>>>> Conference Organising Committee if required. _A projector will be
>>>> provided for each computer room for use within a workshop.
>>>> _
>>>> All workshop and tutorial submissions will be considered, but
>>>> particular interest will be shown in the following topics:
>>>>     * Practical Introduction to ____
>>>>     * Integrating Geospatial Open Source with ____
>>>>     * Geospatial Data
>>>>     * Spatial Data Privacy and Security
>>>>> Workshops are expected to require considerable effort to create, with
>>>>> past experience showing that three days of preparation per hour of
>>>>> presentation are required to produce a high quality workshop.
>>>>> Additionally you will be expected to develop material for attendees to
>>>>> take home with them, such as handouts, workbook, CD-ROMs etc.
>>>> Tutorial Information
>>>>> Tutorials (90 minutes) will
>>>>> be held in standard presentation rooms, running concurrently with
>>>>> presentations during the third and fourth days.
>>>>> Tutorial rooms *will not* be equipped with computers, however
>>>>> presenters
>>>>> may optionally make use of delegate laptops and the FOSS4G LiveDVD.
>>>>> At least 80% of delegates are expected to be carrying a laptop and
>>>>> FOSS4G LiveDVDs will be given to all delegates.
>>>>> Preference will be given to hands-on tutorials.
>>>>> Any hands-on aspects to a tutorial will be the responsibility of the
>>>>> presenter and needs to be described in the tutorial description.
>>>>> Presenters making use of the Live DVD or CCIP will be expected to
>>>>> contribute to testing pre-releases to ensure material and software is
>>>>> properly installed.
>>>>> To discuss your needs for the workshop computer configuration or
>>>>> LiveDVD, please contact the organising committee as per
>>>>> http://2009.foss4g.org/contacts/.
>>>> Submission instructions and templates are available at
>>>> http://2009.foss4g.org/workshops/ and
>>>> http://2009.foss4g.org/tutorials/.
>>>> The deadline for workshop / tutorial submissions is March 2, 2009.
>>>>> *The Climate Change Integration Plugfest (CCIP)*: FOSS4G will
>>>>> launch the
>>>>> OGC's Climate Change Integration Plugfest (CCIP), which demonstrates
>>>>> standards based interoperability between Open Source and Proprietary
>>>>> geospatial applications. It consists of a server with multiple virtual
>>>>> machines, each installed with geospatial applications offering
>>>>> standards
>>>>> based web services. All web services will demonstrate a common
>>>>> dataset,
>>>>> and will be accessed by a range of geospatial client applications
>>>>> installed on client computers.
>>>>> http://external.opengis.org/twiki_public/bin/view/ClimateChallenge2009/WebHome
>>>>> Presenters are encouraged (but not mandated) to make use of scenarios
>>>>> and onsite data from the Climate Change Integration Plugfest (CCIP).
>>>>> This is especially important as demand for access to data over the
>>>>> internet is expected to be high, and Australia has notoriously slow
>>>>> connections to the outside world.
>>>>>   *FOSS4G Live DVD*: LiveDVDs, based on the Xubuntu operating
>>>>> system, and
>>>>> including Geospatial Open Source Software, will be given to all
>>>>> delegates. Users can boot a Live DVD on their computer and trial the
>>>>> software without installing or effecting the existing system. The DVD
>>>>> will be a great marketing tool, and can be incorporated into
>>>>> Tutorials.
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
>>>> FOSS4G 2009 Highlights
>>>>> *Installfest*: After workshops on the first day, delegates will
>>>>> have the
>>>>> opportunity to mingle with presenters, test their LiveDVD, and iron
>>>>> out
>>>>> any laptop glitches before Tutorials in the following days.
>>>>> *Presentations*:
>>>>> *Birds of a Feather*: Rooms have been set aside for semi-organised
>>>>> meetings between like minded groups. Some prominant community
>>>>> initiatives started in prior FOSS4G Birds of a Feather sessions.
>>>>> *Code Sprint*: The weekend after FOSS4G is reserved for the Hackers'
>>>>> Code Sprint. Hackers will be locked in a basement with lots of
>>>>> bandwidth, pizzas and coke. (Well, maybe something better than
>>>>> that, but
>>>>> we don't want to spoil the mystical hacker image by describing it any
>>>>> differently.)
>>>>> Sweeteners
>>>>> Due to the effort involved in producing and presenting a workshop,
>>>>> instructors will receive a single complementary registration to the
>>>>> conference for delivering a workshop. Presenters for tutorials will
>>>>> not
>>>>> be provided complementary registration.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>     Upcoming milestones
>>>>>     * 2 Feb 2009, *Call for Workshops/Tutorials opens*
>>>>>     * 2 Mar 2009, Call for Workshops/Tutorials closes
>>>>>     * 9 Mar 2009, *Call for Abstracts opens*
>>>>>     * 30 Mar 2009, Notification of acceptance for workshops/tutorials
>>>>>     * 13 Apr 2009, *Registration for conference and tutorials opens*
>>>>>     * 1 Jun 2009, Abstract submission deadline
>>>>>     * 13 Jul 2009, Presenters notified of acceptance for talks
>>>>>     * 31 Jul 2009, *Author/Early registration deadline*
>>>>>     * 14 Sep 2009, *Completed program available on the wiki*
>>>>>     * 20 Oct 2009, FOSS4G Workshop
>>>>>     * 21-23 Oct 2009, FOSS4G Presentations and Tutorials
>>>>>     * 24-25 Oct 2009, FOSS4G Code Sprint
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> For information about this announcement, contact:
>>>>> FOSS4G Organising Committee:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009#Contact_Us
>>>>> or,
>>>>> Cameron Shorter, Chair of the FOSS4G Organising Committee and
>>>>> Geospatial
>>>>> Systems Architect at LISAsoft
>>>>> tel +61-8570-5050
>>>>> c a m e r o n . s h o r t e r @ l i s a s o f t . c o m
> --
> Cameron Shorter
> Geospatial Systems Architect
> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
> Think Globally, Fix Locally
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Stefan Hansen
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Stefan Hansen
Software Engineer

Ph: +61 3 8680 3200 Fax: +61 3 8680 3299 Mob: +61
Level 9, 601 Bourke St, Melbourne Vic 3000

LISAsoft is part of the A2end Group of Companies

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