[Live-demo] RE: MapGuide on LiveDVD 5.0

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Jul 5 16:34:00 PDT 2011

Peter Rieks, (autodesk),

As explained by Trevor, there are technical barriers causing a 
reasonable amount off effort required to include MapGuide on the latest 
OSGeo-Live, and consequently Peter suggests that MapGuide shouldn't be 
included on the next release, and due to MapGuide's size and limited 
space on OSGeo-Live, it will be challenging re-introducing MapGuide later.

It would be good to keep all applications on OSGeo-Live, and as such I'd 
like to investigate what options we have available to us to move forward.

Trevor, your suggestion of printing 2 DVDs (or more likely an 8 Gig USB) 
is an option that will sometimes be used, but the practicalities of 
printing a marketing DVD is that there is usually only budget for one 
DVD and no more.

On 6/07/2011 1:31 AM, Trevor Wekel wrote:
> Moving discussion to the list...
> Implementing native compilation on Ubuntu 11 for MapGuide and Fdo will take some time.  As such, we will be unable to make the LiveDVD 5 deadlines.  We are already past the cut off for the install scripts.
> I understand that taking MapGuide off the LiveDVD will "free up" space which will quickly be consumed.  If MapGuide cannot be fit onto LiveDVD 5.5, may I suggest that we move to a multi-dvd set.  Perhaps a "Desktop" DVD and a "Server" DVD.  4.77GB for 40+ projects is quite small.
> Regards,
> Trevor
> From: Cameron Shorter
> Sent: July 4, 2011 11:12 PM
> To: Trevor Wekel
> Cc: Jackie Ng
> Subject: Re: MapGuide on LiveDVD 5.0
> On 5/07/2011 1:57 PM, Trevor Wekel wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
> Unfortunately, Jackie and I have not had time to correct the issues highlighted by Hamish from the alpha build logs.  The package dependencies are especially problematic since they will likely require native builds of FDO and MapGuide on Ubuntu 11.  Jackie and I have decided that it would be better to concentrate our LiveDVD efforts on the next release (5.5 in Jan 2012).  For this release, please exclude MapGuide from the LiveDVD.
> Regards,
> Trevor
> Trevor, sorry to hear that you haven't had time to look at Mapguide. Would you mind sending this email to the osgeo-live list, live-demo at lists.osgeo.org, as there will likely be others with an opinion, and possibly someone who can help you. Also, we need to let people know if the contents of the DVD is decreasing.
> One last comment. Mapguide is the largest installed application on osgeo-live. If we remove it now, and other applications are installed in its place, it will be difficult to find enough space to fit it back in.

On 6/07/2011 9:13 AM, maplabs at light42.com wrote:
> if I recall, MapGuide is 4x larger than the nearest second size, and 
>  10x larger than most ordinary packages
> Put another way, it is by far the largest package, and takes up the 
> space of at least 5 big packages, by itself
> There is nothing else even close to its size - it is disproportionally 
> larger than anything else

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