[Live-demo] App Dependencies [was Nightly doc builds back online; further action on doc licenses needed]

Thu Jul 28 11:15:54 PDT 2011

Alex, 

I've been updated on things, sound like we're updating our demos to
work for DVD and our Website, so no particular problems there. 

These were just thoughts I had while working through the stuff, not
trying discourage anything.   

We looked at the DEB path early on, but decided to go the INSTALL
script this time around to get the lay of things.  To tell the truth I
think this was a wise decision.  Making the DEBs in the future is going
to be much more straight forward because of it. 

Some stuff needs to be split up in order to make the DEBs install
perform correctly.  We have our eye on this as the future method for
installing. 

bobb 

>>> Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com> wrote:

Bob,

That's why we have the feature freeze deadline, It's the date and
which
application versions are supposed to be set so we have time to deal
with
things that may relate. We could add a field to the ongoing
spreadsheet
where we track what versions are on the disc(yes ideally in the future
this would be some type of CMS website). This is yet another reason
why
we are encouraging everyone to creating deb packages for their project
too - automatic dependency handling.

Thanks,
Alex

On 07/28/2011 07:25 AM, Bob Basques wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Not that I know of.  It's not a big problem from here, just need to
> figure out how to version things so everyone know what's on the DVD
(and
> that it may be different for a while from GeoMoose website. maybe
better
> to just not say anything right away, and remember the MapFile
> difference.
>
> I did mention the dependency matrix a few weeks back, doesn't seem
like
> there's been much time to put that kind of thing together this close
to
> letting the DVD out though.
>
> I also mentioned using some sort of WEB FORM for registering an
> application for the DVD, This would be a good spot to add dependency
> info, and then the Matrix could be a generated report instead.
>
> bobb
>
>
>
>>>> "Lime, Steve D (DNR)" <steve.lime at state.mn.us> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry Bob, an unintended consequence… Is there a dependency matrix
> available?
> Steve
>
> From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Bob Basques
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:05 AM
> To: Cameron Shorter; live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Nightly doc builds back online; further
action
> on doc licenses needed
>
>  
> All, 
>   
> I was just informed about the reason for the GeoMoose running Error
on
> the LiveDVD.   
>   
> Seems the MapServer version was changed which requires some
> modifications to MapFiles.  Probably breaks for others I would
imagine
> that are using the LiveDVD Mapserver.. 
>   
> For future consideration, I submit the idea that any potentially
shared
> resources either be locked in earlier than the dependent packages
during
> the DVD assembly period, or that at the very least, the version from
the
> previous DVD is kept in the install mix (if possible). 
>   
> bobb 
>   
>
>
>>>> Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 25/07/11 21:08, Hamish wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the nightly doc build cron job is now an hourly cron job, and back
up
> and
>> running.
>>
>> there's a bug: the licenses.csv file is sourced before it is
> generated.
>> it fails the first time,&  will grab an out of date version from
then
> on.
>>
>>
>> by the way, instead of publicly pledging anything, it would be
> *much*
>> better if folks who are listed as authors just edited their
> quickstarts
>> etc and expanded the license line in their .rst files as they see
> fit.
> While I'm no fan of all the effort spent addressing licensing
> discussions and requirements, we have followed the protocols of
other
> OSGeo projects going through incubation, which usually use a public
> statement to an email list as a requirement to getting svn access.
>
>
>>   No
>> one else may change the copyright
 license line on their behalf!, so
>> everyone must do that anyway, and should do that now.
> I think that it is not as black and white as you may suggest. In
many
> cases there have been multiple authors for a document, and this is a
> little messy to capture in svn logs, (although I know it is
possible).
> I would be more than happy for anyone to update the license
statement
> in
> the subversion.
> However, I would also suggest that it should be ok for someone to
> change
> the license for a doc if they reference a public email saying that
the
> author is ok with the license.
>>
>> (also I would suggest IMHO a separate license.html page is a waste
> of
>> time, the doc license just needs to be at the bottom of each page
and
> no
>> more;
>
>>   and I continue to be annoyed by seeing (c) Lisasoft at the bottom
> of
>> pages whos contents are entirely authored by myself and solely (c)
> OSGeo.
> Footer has been updated to be a "copyright" hyperlink which links to
a
> copyright page. The copyright page contains a table which lists all
> documentation, the author(s) and licence(s), as extracted from the
> metadata in the docs by bin/extract_licenses.sh
>
> http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/copyright.html
>
> Simon Cropper is reviewing for me at the moment, happy to hear
> comments
> from others too.
>
>> IMHO the best solution is if lisasoft did like everyone else and
> just
>> donated their copyright t
> o osgeo.)
>>
>>
>> hourly build docs are here:
>>     http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/
>>
>>
>> please work on the many issues found in the error log therein.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Hamish
>>
>>
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