[Live-demo] Re: [Ncwms-users] ncwms to be included on OSGeo-Live?

Tue May 17 02:06:48 PDT 2011

Jon, I'm CCing the OSGeo-Live list, as there are others who may correct 
my statements re Java installing.

On 17/05/2011 6:22 PM, Jon Blower wrote:
>
> Hi Cameron,
>
> I would hope that this can be done, certainly I hope the code will be 
> ready by then.  Whether I have time to finish the documentation before 
> fourth of July may be another matter -- can the final documentation 
> wait until first of August?
>

We are aiming to have English docs complete by 18 July, in order to give 
translators sufficient time to translate and review before release.

The images for the docs can be inserted a bit later.

> I've just been reading some of the instructions and have a couple of 
> questions:
>
> 1.ncWMS is packaged as a standard Java web application (WAR file), as 
> is THREDDS.  Does the live DVD already include a web application 
> server like tomcat?
>

There are a number of applications which run inside a servlet container. 
Have a look at the install scripts for geoserver and geonetwork (which I 
believe use jetty). I'm pretty sure geomajas runs in a servlet container 
too.
https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/

My understanding is that we set up a separate servelet container for 
each application, rather than running all applications inside the same 
servelet container.
This is because the LiveDVD is RAM constrained, and having multiple 
applications running in a servlet container at the same time uses up RAM.

> 2.Out-of-the-box, ncWMS expects the user/administrator to do some 
> configuration in order to add some datasets, also to configure things 
> such as a disk cache.  Should I package version in which this is 
> already preconfigured, perhaps to avoid writing data to the local disk 
> as suggested in the instructions?
>
Yes, the aim for the DVD is to have an application which is "installed 
and ready to run", using datasets which are already on the DVD.
You probably don't want to install all datasets, as one of the tasks 
that you may wish to include in a quickstart is loading a dataset.
I'm interested to know what types of datasets would be appropriate, and 
whether we already have something suitable, possibly installed for the 
rasdaman project.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jon
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 17 May 2011 00:37
> *To:* Jon Blower
> *Cc:* ncwms-users at lists.sourceforge.net; Ethan Davis 
> (edavis at unidata.ucar.edu)
> *Subject:* Re: [Ncwms-users] ncwms to be included on OSGeo-Live?
>
> Jon,
> Great to hear your interest. I agree that it would be good to have the 
> 1.0 release built before installing on OSGeo-Live. I'm hoping to have 
> ncWMS and THREDDS on our next release of OSGeo-Live. Do you think that 
> is possible? Do you think that you can have 1.0 released the upcoming 
> OSGeo-Live feature freeze on 4 July. (Preferably a week or more before 
> that date). It is acceptable to have a Release Candidate by that date, 
> so long as the final version, with all bugs fixed, is completed by 1 
> August.
>
> Ethan,
> I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the same questions for THREDDS.
>
> On 16/05/2011 10:43 PM, Jon Blower wrote:
>
> Hi Cameron,
>
> We talked about this briefly just before Christmas.  I'd be very 
> interested in doing this but I think it will be best to wait for a 
> full 1.0 release of ncWMS first.  I am not being quick to produce this 
> due to lack of cycles but I hope it won't be too long.
>
> I am copying Ethan Davis as he may be able to comment on the THREDDS 
> front.  It may be that the best thing to do is to bundle a version of 
> THREDDS that has ncWMS built-in.  One issue may be identifying some 
> sample datasets that can be freely distributed on the live DVD.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jon
>
> *From:*Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 08 May 2011 22:03
> *To:* ncwms-users at lists.sourceforge.net 
> <mailto:ncwms-users at lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject:* [Ncwms-users] ncwms to be included on OSGeo-Live?
>
> I help coordinate the packaging of OSGeo-Live, which is a marketing 
> DVD of pre-configured Open Source GeoSpatial applications on a DVD 
> handed out at Spatial conferences around the world. It also contains 
> consistent documentation which is now being translated into multiple 
> languages. (Also available here: http://live.osgeo.org )
>
> Some of our DVD users have suggested that it would be great to see 
> ncwms  included on this DVD. As such, I'm reaching out to see if there 
> is an interest from the ncwms community.
>
> The process for including a package on OSGeoLive is explained here:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
>
> I'm interested to hear thoughts or answer questions from ncwms 
> developers about the process.
>
> On 08/05/11 20:12, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> We are starting to build the 5.0 OSGeo-Live <http://live.osgeo.org> 
> DVD which will be released at FOSS4G 2011 <http://2011.foss4g.org/> 
> this September where it will be handed out to all delegates. We would 
> like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to OSGeo-Live, 
> anyone who would like to use OSGeo-Live in workshops, tutorials or 
> similar, or anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming 
> release.
>
>
>     Which project version?
>
> Could each installed project please update our status sheet to note 
> the expected version to be installed on OSGeo-Live 5.0. Status sheet 
> <https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTBpQVJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc&hl=en_GB#gid=8>. 
>
>
>
>     Key Priorities for next release
>
> Disk Space
>
> We are reaching DVD size limits, and need to be creative about saving 
> space
>
> Package Updates
>
> Update and test latest stable software releases
>
> Quickstart Reviews
>
> We have Project Quickstarts, but many haven't gone through 
> comprehensive review yet.
>
> Translations
>
> We have varying levels of translations, and would like to increase that.
>
> Testing
>
> With Quality being a key focus area for us, we need lots of help with 
> testing.
>
>
>     Key Milestones
>
> 04 Jul 2011 Feature Freeze
>
> 01 Aug 2011 User Acceptance Test (all Apps installed and working)
>
> 22 Aug 2011 Final ISO sent to printers
>
> 12 Sep 2011 FOSS4G 2011
>
> ... full schedule 
> <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB> 
>
>
>
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>
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> -- 
> Cameron Shorter
> Geospatial Director
> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>   
> Think Globally, Fix Locally
> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
> http://www.lisasoft.com
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cameron Shorter
> Geospatial Solutions Manager
> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>   
> Think Globally, Fix Locally
> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
> http://www.lisasoft.com

-- 
Cameron Shorter
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Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
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