[Live-demo] Re: Questioning referencing MapGuide in docs

[Trevor Wekel]

Hello Cameron, Hamish, and list.

Yes.  MapGuide on OSGeo-Live is mostly a resourcing/funding issue.  I am certain that Jackie and I, with enough funding, could get MapGuide back on Ubuntu.  Basically, we need to do a full native compile instead of using CentOS binaries.  Autodesk sponsored the original work a few years back and no sponsor has stepped up to take their place.

Quite unfortunate.

Regards,
Trevor

-----Original Message-----
From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: February 22, 2012 6:20 PM
To: Hamish
Cc: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [Live-demo] Re: Questioning referencing MapGuide in docs

On 23/02/2012 11:35 AM, Hamish wrote:
> Cameron wrote:
>> I notice that the contents page has been tweaked:
>> http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/overview/overview.html
>>
>> In particular:
>> 1. There is a new category "Other software of interest (not
>> available live)"
>> 2. "MapGuide" has been re-introduced
> Correct.
>
>
>> I think it a good idea to make it clear which packages are
>> not available Live, but I'd prefer not to include link to
>> MapGuide. MapGuide was on OSGeo-Live, but the MapGuide
>> community has not stepped up to keep it working, and it is
>> also not available in the Windows installers (primarily
>> because it is huge and won't fit), but also because we are
>> not getting support from the MapGuide community to do
>> something about it.
> They are a full and active OSGeo Project, and they have a decent
> overview page and quickstart available, and so they get given a
> spot in the summary list of (not installed) projects.  Since this
> live sampler disc serves the OSGeo projects, and not the other
> way around, I'm not going to get into the business of using their
> software overview page as leverage for forcing them to update
> their software offerings, especially as we're the ones who
> decided to kick them off in the first place. (* purely due to
> lack of space on the DVD)
>
> FWIW I haven't chased them up about getting it manually
> installable on Natty, although I really should have.
>
>
> If they weren't a full fledged OSGeo project I wouldn't hesitate
> much to drop the link to their summary page. But they are, and if
> anything I think we should be reaching out to them more. (and the
> FDO&  GEOS library teams too, the only active OSGeo projects not
> formally represented on the disc by an overview page)
>
>
> regards,
> Hamish

Hamish, you make a good point that MapGuide is a graduated OSGeo 
project. Hence I'm ok to leave docs as they are.

With regards to reaching out the the MapGuide community - I have reached 
out a number of times, (as I do with all projects). I have got the 
occasional response. It seems that MapGuide has some difficult technical 
challenges getting it working on the latest Ubuntu, and no volunteers to 
sort the issues out.

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