[Live-demo] New app for 6.0; Proposal

[Valenty Gonzalez]

El 14/06/2012 05:33 a.m., Angelos Tzotsos escribió:
> On 06/14/2012 06:24 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> On 14/06/2012 8:35 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> On 06/14/2012 01:19 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>>> On 06/13/2012 02:58 PM, Javi Rodrigo wrote:
>>>>> El 13/06/12 23:51, Alex Mandel escribió:
>>>>>> On 06/13/2012 02:44 PM, Hamish wrote:
>>>>>>> Valenty wrote:
>>>>>>>> We want to propose a new app for OsGeo-Live_DVD 6.0
>>>>>>>> The application is 'i3Geo', a geoportal framework from Brasil;
>>>>>>>> this software is well known in Brasil since 4 years at least,
>>>>>>>> and have a community of several thousand users.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is attached the "Live GIS Disc Apply" completed
>>>>>>> does it use standard apache, or tomcat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hamish
>>>>>>> (wondering how the alternate build method for the livedvd affects
>>>>>>> disc space)
>>>>>> Sounds like it's standard Apache since it's a php app. 130 MB is one
>>>>>> behemoth of a php application. Is mapserver included in that, can
>>>>>> it use
>>>>>> the mapserver already on the disc or does it install it's own
>>>>>> version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>> So all of that is php code?
>>>>
>>>> I went to both websites and can't seem to get in at all to read the
>>>> installation instructions (in any language).
>>>> http://www.softwarepublico.gov.br/
>>>> I could not figure out where to actually go (even though I can
>>>> somewhat
>>>> read Spanish(and therefore some Portuguese)).
>>>> I went to
>>>> http://www.softwarepublico.gov.br/register/?return_url=/ver-comunidade?community_id=1444332
>>>>
>>>> and got an error. "Repeated Operation
>>>> Operation blocked. Don't submit the same query, while the old one is
>>>> still running..."
>>>>
>>>> 2nd time I got a registration form and worked my way through.
>>>>
>>>> https://gvsig.org/web/projects/i3Geo
>>>> Only has a self signed cert, and even after confirming an exception
>>>> took
>>>> forever to load, then requires a login just to browse. No registration
>>>> option is visible.
>>>>
>>>> I then poked around until I got to
>>>> http://mapas.mma.gov.br/download/arquivos/v4_6/ but couldn't find a
>>>> deb
>>>> to try.
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> Tentatively I think i3Geo will be a welcome addition but may only be
>>>> experimental/optional on version 6. So I encourage you to start
>>>> preparing documentation and installation script.
>>>>
>>>> I have big reservations about sites that require logins as the only
>>>> means of accessing the community. Not to be US/Euro centric either,
>>>> but
>>>> a few intro English pages on the website to help non
>>>> Spanish/Portuguese
>>>> speakers might be good too (I'll try google translate).
>>>>
>>>> While on that topic are you interested in adding a Portuguese
>>>> translation to live.osgeo.org or does written Spanish suffice?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alex
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>>> I agree with Alex,
>>>
>>> This software could be added as beta and not installed by default
>>> until next releases.
>>> Also, it would be valuable to have some demo web site in English to
>>> try.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Angelos
>>>
>> My feelings on including i3Geo is similar to comments from Angelos
>> and Alex.
>> It seems there are a number of discussions we need to have before we
>> decide to include i3Geo on OSGeoLive, and I feel we are too late in
>> the osgeolive6.0 release cycle to tackle these issues in time for
>> this release.
>>
>> In particular:
>> * We will need to work out the amount of room on the DVD.
>>
>> * To date OSGeo-Live is provided in the first instance in English,
>> and I believe it needs to work flawlessly in English in the first
>> instance. (This is a discussion we are yet to have on the osgeo-live
>> list). As such, I suspect there will require extra QA to verify i3Geo
>> works completely with an English interface (including error messages
>> etc)
>>
>> * i3Geo should switch to using sample datasets from OSGeo Live,
>> rather than their own datsets.
>>
>> * And we need to do all this and make sure there is time for QA and
>> translators to update docs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Also I would like to add that moving inclusion of projects like
> geonode, eoxserver and i3Geo to the next release will be a good test
> on the disk space problem, since we plan to bring the new build
> process as default for 6.5 (seems to provide less bloated iso's). We
> will discuss over this switch in time.
> Certainly projects should use the default datasets rather than their own.
>
> Angelos
>
>

Thanks so much Cameron, Angelos and Alex.

We have check out  the code and  we down sized to 87Mb after installed.
Like you say, from now, we can work with you (OsGeo-LiveDVD Team) in
those aspects that are required to  include i3Geo installed on the next
version 6.5

We believe that including i3Geo in OsGeo/LiveDVD 6.0 like a Beta will be
good considering the time before next release.

Also comment that we are sure that we will can integrate i3Geo with
sample datasets from OSGeo Live; and that English interface for users
works correctly. But certainly is need a QA time and translating.

Regards,

Valenty