[Live-demo] New app for 6.0; Proposal

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 03:03:09 PDT 2012

On 06/14/2012 06:24 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> On 14/06/2012 8:35 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>> On 06/14/2012 01:19 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>> On 06/13/2012 02:58 PM, Javi Rodrigo wrote:
>>>> El 13/06/12 23:51, Alex Mandel escribió:
>>>>> On 06/13/2012 02:44 PM, Hamish wrote:
>>>>>> Valenty wrote:
>>>>>>> We want to propose a new app for OsGeo-Live_DVD 6.0
>>>>>>> The application is 'i3Geo', a geoportal framework from Brasil;
>>>>>>> this software is well known in Brasil since 4 years at least,
>>>>>>> and have a community of several thousand users.
>>>>>>> Is attached the "Live GIS Disc Apply" completed
>>>>>> does it use standard apache, or tomcat?
>>>>>> Hamish
>>>>>> (wondering how the alternate build method for the livedvd affects
>>>>>> disc space)
>>>>> Sounds like it's standard Apache since it's a php app. 130 MB is one
>>>>> behemoth of a php application. Is mapserver included in that, can 
>>>>> it use
>>>>> the mapserver already on the disc or does it install it's own 
>>>>> version?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alex
>>> So all of that is php code?
>>> I went to both websites and can't seem to get in at all to read the
>>> installation instructions (in any language).
>>> http://www.softwarepublico.gov.br/
>>> I could not figure out where to actually go (even though I can somewhat
>>> read Spanish(and therefore some Portuguese)).
>>> I went to
>>> http://www.softwarepublico.gov.br/register/?return_url=/ver-comunidade?community_id=1444332 
>>> and got an error. "Repeated Operation
>>> Operation blocked. Don't submit the same query, while the old one is
>>> still running..."
>>> 2nd time I got a registration form and worked my way through.
>>> https://gvsig.org/web/projects/i3Geo
>>> Only has a self signed cert, and even after confirming an exception 
>>> took
>>> forever to load, then requires a login just to browse. No registration
>>> option is visible.
>>> I then poked around until I got to
>>> http://mapas.mma.gov.br/download/arquivos/v4_6/ but couldn't find a deb
>>> to try.
>>> ----
>>> Tentatively I think i3Geo will be a welcome addition but may only be
>>> experimental/optional on version 6. So I encourage you to start
>>> preparing documentation and installation script.
>>> I have big reservations about sites that require logins as the only
>>> means of accessing the community. Not to be US/Euro centric either, but
>>> a few intro English pages on the website to help non Spanish/Portuguese
>>> speakers might be good too (I'll try google translate).
>>> While on that topic are you interested in adding a Portuguese
>>> translation to live.osgeo.org or does written Spanish suffice?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
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>> I agree with Alex,
>> This software could be added as beta and not installed by default 
>> until next releases.
>> Also, it would be valuable to have some demo web site in English to try.
>> Thanks,
>> Angelos
> My feelings on including i3Geo is similar to comments from Angelos and 
> Alex.
> It seems there are a number of discussions we need to have before we 
> decide to include i3Geo on OSGeoLive, and I feel we are too late in 
> the osgeolive6.0 release cycle to tackle these issues in time for this 
> release.
> In particular:
> * We will need to work out the amount of room on the DVD.
> * To date OSGeo-Live is provided in the first instance in English, and 
> I believe it needs to work flawlessly in English in the first 
> instance. (This is a discussion we are yet to have on the osgeo-live 
> list). As such, I suspect there will require extra QA to verify i3Geo 
> works completely with an English interface (including error messages etc)
> * i3Geo should switch to using sample datasets from OSGeo Live, rather 
> than their own datsets.
> * And we need to do all this and make sure there is time for QA and 
> translators to update docs.
Also I would like to add that moving inclusion of projects like geonode, 
eoxserver and i3Geo to the next release will be a good test on the disk 
space problem, since we plan to bring the new build process as default 
for 6.5 (seems to provide less bloated iso's). We will discuss over this 
switch in time.
Certainly projects should use the default datasets rather than their own.


Angelos Tzotsos
Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens

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