[Live-demo] EOxServer - an Open Source WMS/WCS for Earth Observations & OSGeo-Live
Stephan Meißl
stephan at meissl.name
Tue Jun 26 06:15:38 PDT 2012
Alex, Cameron,
sorry for the long silence, after holidays I still need to catch up with
things.
My OSGeo account username is: schpidi
I confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be compatible with
the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the time of contribution.
Thanks,
Stephan
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 15:16 -0700, Alex Mandel wrote:
> Stephan,
>
> Sign up for an osgeo account, tell us your username and then we'll give
> you access to svn. You'll be able to manage your scripts and files
> directly via svn.
>
> See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#OSGeo_User_Id
> and the section below that on svn.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>
> On 06/03/2012 08:59 AM, stephan at meissl.name wrote:
> > Cameron,
> >
> > many thanks for your reply. I completely agree to your proposed approach for
> > 6.0. What would be the best procedure to send the docs and install script?
> >
> > cu
> > Stephan
> >
> >
> >
> > On June 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Stephan,
> >> I apologise for the slow response - this email thread has got lost in my
> >> email inbox.
> >>
> >> EOxServer does look like it would be a valuable contribution to
> >> OSGeoLive. From what I hear, it does seem to be of suitable quality
> >> software. I'm a bit nervous about your relatively small user community,
> >> as well as the existence of similar projects which will be competing to
> >> attract your niche user base. I would like to encourage you to reach out
> >> to other International Earth Observation software projects to see how
> >> you can collaborate, and also reach out to other Earth Observation
> >> communities and attract them as users. This will be important for the
> >> long term viability of your project.
> >>
> >> With regards to including EOxServer on OSGeoLive:
> >> I don't want to commit yet to including EOxServer in this 6.0 release.
> >> Partly due to the light community size, but mostly due to the many other
> >> challenges that we are going to be spending a lot of time on for this
> >> osgeolive release, (switching to ubuntu 12.04 and openjdk).
> >> However, you are welcome to write your docs and install script, and we
> >> can include them in the release. The docs will be on the DVD, but not
> >> linked from the index page, and install script won't be run during the
> >> build process, but can be run afterwards (eg at the start of a workshop
> >> which is using the DVD).
> >> I'd then suggest that we will probably want to introduce EOxServer into
> >> the OSGeoLive 6.5 release.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 26/05/12 22:51, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> >>> Brian, Angelos, all,
> >>>
> >>> many thanks for your positive and encouraging comments. Was a pleasure
> >>> to work with you on IRC :)
> >>>
> >>> I like your idea of the beta software. The script you mention is
> >>> available in our trunk [1] together with a screen shot [2] of what I
> >>> achieved so far.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards from Vienna, Europe,
> >>> Stephan
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/install_eoxserver.sh
> >>> [2] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/screenshot.png
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:02 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was present in the discussion Brian mentions and I agree with him.
> >>>> EOxServer seems to be a well organized project and I feel it should be
> >>>> included in the disk, initially as beta software for version 6.0. This
> >>>> would mean no default installation but installable by the user with
> >>>> instructions through a quickstart document.
> >>>>
> >>>> Stephan already created an installer for the disk and I had a chance to
> >>>> test it against alpha2.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Angelos
> >>>>
> >>>> On 05/26/2012 03:52 AM, Brian Hamlin wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Cameron, OSGeo Live list, all
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had the good fortune of working with Stephen briefly today.. I got
> >>>>> a quick look at the project source code, and I happen to work with
> >>>>> technology similar to some parts of EOxServer, here in California.. so
> >>>>> I have some way to understand what I see.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The good news is that EOxServer is *small* and the server portion of
> >>>>> it can certainly work within our Live parameters for web servers.. My
> >>>>> first impression is that EOxServer is an agile and well organized
> >>>>> suite of software that simplifies reading, processing and displaying
> >>>>> some kinds of raster imagery, onto an OpenLayers web map. The scope is
> >>>>> specific, the project appears to be well run.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SISS - I had not seen that SISS page before.. perhaps some of those
> >>>>> on the cc list are very involved. .
> >>>>> I can take a guess .. SISS appears to be more of a certified stack of
> >>>>> large software apps/platforms, along with their supported standards -
> >>>>> different than a single small app written for a specific purpose..
> >>>>> The naming of GML signals to me that SISS is aimed at large
> >>>>> institutions and research bodies..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> best regards from Berkeley, California
> >>>>> -Brian
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Some of the people involved in Australian/New Zealand Earth
> >>>>>> Observations (Andrew, RobA, Bruce, Jim, RobertG, David),
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As per below, Stephan has proposed that EOxServer be included in the
> >>>>>> OSGeo-Live DVD distribution, which will provide valuable marketing
> >>>>>> reach for EOxServer. I'm forwarding this on to each of you as I'm
> >>>>>> interested to understand whether the Australian Bureau of Meteorology
> >>>>>> (BOM) and CSIRO are aware of EOxServer. Have you considered using
> >>>>>> EOxServer?
> >>>>>> What have been your conclusions about such considerations?
> >>>>>> How does EOxServer compare against the SISS stack?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stephan,
> >>>>>> Note that BOM/CSIRO have been investing heavily in what they are
> >>>>>> calling the "Spatial Information Services Stack" (SISS), which
> >>>>>> consists of:
> >>>>>> PostGIS
> >>>>>> GeoServer
> >>>>>> GeoNetwork
> >>>>>> THREDDS
> >>>>>> HollowWorld
> >>>>>> FullMoon
> >>>>>> https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/SpatialInformationServicesStackHandbook
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stephan,
> >>>>>> I'm interested to know whether participants in the EOxServer have
> >>>>>> been in touch with programs working on the SISS stack?
> >>>>>> Are there any areas for collaboration?
> >>>>>> What are the benefits of EOxServer over SISS?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 26/05/2012 1:21 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:27 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>> We are starting to build the 6.0 OSGeo-Live DVD which will be released
> >>>>>>>> in September 2012, ready for FOSS4G 2012 as well as many other spatial
> >>>>>>>> conferences. This upcoming version will be built upon the stable
> >>>>>>>> Xubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support (LTS) release. Documentation will be
> >>>>>>>> translated into eight languages, now also including Chinese and
> >>>>>>>> Catalan.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Any new applications?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
> >>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add extra translations, or
> >>>>>>>> anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
> >>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> we'd like to propose the inclusion of the EOxServer [1] project in
> >>>>>>> OSGeo-Live. Three weeks ago we released our version 0.2.0 and even
> >>>>>>> though it has a rather low version number we think it would add some
> >>>>>>> value to OSGeo-Live. However, as this is a proposal and we're surely
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> aware of all policies we fully understand different opinions. It would
> >>>>>>> be great to hear your advice.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Here are the details about EOxServer following the wiki at [2]:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Name: EOxServer
> >>>>>>> URL: http://eoxserver.org
> >>>>>>> License: MIT
> >>>>>>> Description and value added:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> EOxServer's mission is to provide an Open Source software framework to
> >>>>>>> ease the online provision of big Earth Observation data archives via
> >>>>>>> Open Standard services for efficient exploitation by users.
> >>>>>>> * Open Source: MIT-style license
> >>>>>>> * software framework: Entirely based on Open Source (Python,
> >>>>>>> MapServer, Django, GDAL, etc.)
> >>>>>>> * ease online provision: Admin GUI and command line data
> >>>>>>> registration
> >>>>>>> * big Earth Observation data archives: Operators register
> >>>>>>> existing
> >>>>>>> raster data archives
> >>>>>>> * Open Standard services: Open in the sense of freely available;
> >>>>>>> Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC); WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS
> >>>>>>> * efficient exploitation by users: User defined sub-setting;
> >>>>>>> view
> >>>>>>> and download
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OGC standards: WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS, WCS-T; All versions are
> >>>>>>> supported that are supported in MapServer. However, focus is on WCS 2.0
> >>>>>>> and WMS 1.3 and their respective Earth Observation (EO) application
> >>>>>>> profiles.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Language: Python and a small bit C
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Version: 0.2.0 (maybe 0.2.1 if we need to change something for example
> >>>>>>> the packaging)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Risk adverse organisations: EOxServer has been partly funded by the
> >>>>>>> European Space Agency (ESA) which is currently evaluating the
> >>>>>>> operational use. Also some European Commission supported projects are
> >>>>>>> evaluating the usage of EOxServer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> User community: There is a user mailing list [3] but not yet much
> >>>>>>> traffic. According to the Python package index [4] there have been 96
> >>>>>>> downloads in the last three weeks and according to the website
> >>>>>>> statistics for eoxserver.org there have been around 3400 unique
> >>>>>>> visitors
> >>>>>>> with about 7800 visits in 2012.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Developer community: Again we have a mailing list [3] with a bit more
> >>>>>>> traffic and nine committers. Please see ohloh [5] for more statistics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Stable release: Our latest stable release is 0.2.0.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Testing: We make extensive usage of Python's and Django's unit test
> >>>>>>> framework and have about 900 tests included in our autotest instance.
> >>>>>>> Additionally there are some selenium based tests of the web client and
> >>>>>>> admin gui.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mature code: Again please see ohloh [5] for these statistics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> User interface: In EOxServer we distinct between two user roles:
> >>>>>>> operators and users. Operators can register data and control the server
> >>>>>>> via the command line and the Django provided admin gui. Users can
> >>>>>>> explore the available data via a simple web client based on OpenLayers
> >>>>>>> and jQuery.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Presentation at FOSS4G: There have been talks at the German speaking
> >>>>>>> FOSSGIS and the recent FOSS4G-CEE conference. Please see the EOxServer
> >>>>>>> documentation [6] for a list of presentations.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Volunteers for liaising: Stephan Meissl and Stephan Krause
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Application installation: Since EOxServer is a Python application the
> >>>>>>> recommended way of installation is using pip. However, since we're
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>> setuptools we can easily provide .deb packages if needed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 512 Meg of RAM: Yes, EOxServer can be run in 512MB of memory. However,
> >>>>>>> the image rendering will be limited to the capabilities of MapServer
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> GDAL.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Disk space: The current base package extracts to 22MB but includes 15MB
> >>>>>>> of documentation. Our autotest package which we'd propose for a
> >>>>>>> demonstration (see below) extracts to 130MB but 90MB of this are
> >>>>>>> expected results for the tests which can be safely ignored. If needed I
> >>>>>>> believe we can shrink the test data to under 10MB to still provide a
> >>>>>>> meaningful demonstration. Usually we also copy the OGC schemas to speed
> >>>>>>> up XML validation but this might not be necessary here. The packages
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> available here [7].
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Other dataset: We have to explore the already included demonstration
> >>>>>>> data but at a first glance we think we need to include some EO data in
> >>>>>>> order to show off the capabilities of EOxServer.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Project Overview and Quickstart: Will of course be produced and
> >>>>>>> provided.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers: Not needed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
> >>>>>>> Stephan on behalf of the EOxServer Team
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org
> >>>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
> >>>>>>> [3] http://eoxserver.org/doc/en/users/mailing_lists.html
> >>>>>>> [4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/EOxServer/
> >>>>>>> [5] https://www.ohloh.net/p/eoxserver/
> >>>>>>> [6] http://eoxserver.org/doc_trunk/en/users/presentations.html
> >>>>>>> [7] http://eoxserver.org/wiki/Download
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> ==
> >>>>> Brian Hamlin
> >>>>> GeoCal-ish
> >>>>> OSGeo California Chapter
> >>>>> 415-717-4462 cell
> >>>>>
>
>
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