[Live-demo] [eoxserver-dev] EOxServer - an Open Source WMS/WCS for Earth Observations & OSGeo-Live

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 07:14:07 PDT 2012

Hi Stephan,

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On 06/26/2012 04:15 PM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> Alex, Cameron,
> sorry for the long silence, after holidays I still need to catch up with
> things.
> My OSGeo account username is: schpidi
> I confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be compatible with
> the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the time of contribution.
> Thanks,
> Stephan
> On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 15:16 -0700, Alex Mandel wrote:
>> Stephan,
>> Sign up for an osgeo account, tell us your username and then we'll give
>> you access to svn. You'll be able to manage your scripts and files
>> directly via svn.
>> See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#OSGeo_User_Id
>> and the section below that on svn.
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>> On 06/03/2012 08:59 AM, stephan at meissl.name wrote:
>>>   Cameron,
>>> many thanks for your reply. I completely agree to your proposed approach for
>>> 6.0. What would be the best procedure to send the docs and install script?
>>> cu
>>> Stephan
>>> On June 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Stephan,
>>>> I apologise for the slow response - this email thread has got lost in my
>>>> email inbox.
>>>> EOxServer does look like it would be a valuable contribution to
>>>> OSGeoLive. From what I hear, it does seem to be of suitable quality
>>>> software. I'm a bit nervous about your relatively small user community,
>>>> as well as the existence of similar projects which will be competing to
>>>> attract your niche user base. I would like to encourage you to reach out
>>>> to other International Earth Observation software projects to see how
>>>> you can collaborate, and also reach out to other Earth Observation
>>>> communities and attract them as users. This will be important for the
>>>> long term viability of your project.
>>>> With regards to including EOxServer on OSGeoLive:
>>>> I don't want to commit yet to including EOxServer in this 6.0 release.
>>>> Partly due to the light community size, but mostly due to the many other
>>>> challenges that we are going to be spending a lot of time on for this
>>>> osgeolive release, (switching to ubuntu 12.04 and openjdk).
>>>> However, you are welcome to write your docs and install script, and we
>>>> can include them in the release. The docs will be on the DVD, but not
>>>> linked from the index page, and install script won't be run during the
>>>> build process, but can be run afterwards (eg at the start of a workshop
>>>> which is using the DVD).
>>>> I'd then suggest that we will probably want to introduce EOxServer into
>>>> the OSGeoLive 6.5 release.
>>>> On 26/05/12 22:51, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>>> Brian, Angelos, all,
>>>>> many thanks for your positive and encouraging comments. Was a pleasure
>>>>> to work with you on IRC :)
>>>>> I like your idea of the beta software. The script you mention is
>>>>> available in our trunk [1] together with a screen shot [2] of what I
>>>>> achieved so far.
>>>>> Best regards from Vienna, Europe,
>>>>> Stephan
>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/install_eoxserver.sh
>>>>> [2] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/screenshot.png
>>>>> On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:02 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I was present in the discussion Brian mentions and I agree with him.
>>>>>> EOxServer seems to be a well organized project and I feel it should be
>>>>>> included in the disk, initially as beta software for version 6.0. This
>>>>>> would mean no default installation but installable by the user with
>>>>>> instructions through a quickstart document.
>>>>>> Stephan already created an installer for the disk and I had a chance to
>>>>>> test it against alpha2.
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>> On 05/26/2012 03:52 AM, Brian Hamlin wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Cameron, OSGeo Live list, all
>>>>>>>     I had the good fortune of working with Stephen briefly today.. I got
>>>>>>> a quick look at the project source code, and I happen to work with
>>>>>>> technology similar to some parts of EOxServer, here in California.. so
>>>>>>> I have some way to understand what I see.
>>>>>>>     The good news is that EOxServer is *small* and the server portion of
>>>>>>> it can certainly work within our Live parameters for web servers.. My
>>>>>>> first impression is that EOxServer is an agile and well organized
>>>>>>> suite of software that simplifies reading, processing and displaying
>>>>>>> some kinds of raster imagery, onto an OpenLayers web map. The scope is
>>>>>>> specific, the project appears to be well run.
>>>>>>>     SISS - I had not seen that SISS page before.. perhaps some of those
>>>>>>> on the cc list are very involved. .
>>>>>>> I can take a guess .. SISS appears to be more of a certified stack of
>>>>>>> large software apps/platforms, along with their supported standards -
>>>>>>> different than a single small app written for a specific purpose..
>>>>>>> The naming of GML signals to me that SISS is aimed at large
>>>>>>> institutions and research bodies..
>>>>>>>     best regards from Berkeley, California
>>>>>>>       -Brian
>>>>>>> On May 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some of the people involved in Australian/New Zealand Earth
>>>>>>>> Observations (Andrew, RobA, Bruce, Jim, RobertG, David),
>>>>>>>> As per below, Stephan has proposed that EOxServer be included in the
>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live DVD distribution, which will provide valuable marketing
>>>>>>>> reach for EOxServer. I'm forwarding this on to each of you as I'm
>>>>>>>> interested to understand whether the Australian Bureau of Meteorology
>>>>>>>> (BOM) and CSIRO are aware of EOxServer. Have you considered using
>>>>>>>> EOxServer?
>>>>>>>> What have been your conclusions about such considerations?
>>>>>>>> How does EOxServer compare against the SISS stack?
>>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>>> Note that BOM/CSIRO have been investing heavily in what they are
>>>>>>>> calling the "Spatial Information Services Stack" (SISS), which
>>>>>>>> consists of:
>>>>>>>> PostGIS
>>>>>>>> GeoServer
>>>>>>>> GeoNetwork
>>>>>>>> THREDDS
>>>>>>>> HollowWorld
>>>>>>>> FullMoon
>>>>>>>> https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/SpatialInformationServicesStackHandbook
>>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>>> I'm interested to know whether participants in the EOxServer have
>>>>>>>> been in touch with programs working on the SISS stack?
>>>>>>>> Are there any areas for collaboration?
>>>>>>>> What are the benefits of EOxServer over SISS?
>>>>>>>> On 26/05/2012 1:21 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:27 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> We are starting to build the 6.0 OSGeo-Live DVD which will be released
>>>>>>>>>> in September 2012, ready for FOSS4G 2012 as well as many other spatial
>>>>>>>>>> conferences. This upcoming version will be built upon the stable
>>>>>>>>>> Xubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support (LTS) release. Documentation will be
>>>>>>>>>> translated into eight languages, now also including Chinese and
>>>>>>>>>> Catalan.
>>>>>>>>>> Any new applications?
>>>>>>>>>> We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add extra translations, or
>>>>>>>>>> anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>>>>>> we'd like to propose the inclusion of the EOxServer [1] project in
>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live. Three weeks ago we released our version 0.2.0 and even
>>>>>>>>> though it has a rather low version number we think it would add some
>>>>>>>>> value to OSGeo-Live. However, as this is a proposal and we're surely
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> aware of all policies we fully understand different opinions. It would
>>>>>>>>> be great to hear your advice.
>>>>>>>>> Here are the details about EOxServer following the wiki at [2]:
>>>>>>>>> Name: EOxServer
>>>>>>>>> URL: http://eoxserver.org
>>>>>>>>> License: MIT
>>>>>>>>> Description and value added:
>>>>>>>>> EOxServer's mission is to provide an Open Source software framework to
>>>>>>>>> ease the online provision of big Earth Observation data archives via
>>>>>>>>> Open Standard services for efficient exploitation by users.
>>>>>>>>>          * Open Source: MIT-style license
>>>>>>>>>          * software framework: Entirely based on Open Source (Python,
>>>>>>>>>            MapServer, Django, GDAL, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>          * ease online provision: Admin GUI and command line data
>>>>>>>>>            registration
>>>>>>>>>          * big Earth Observation data archives: Operators register
>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>            raster data archives
>>>>>>>>>          * Open Standard services: Open in the sense of freely available;
>>>>>>>>>            Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC); WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS
>>>>>>>>>          * efficient exploitation by users: User defined sub-setting;
>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>            and download
>>>>>>>>> OGC standards: WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS, WCS-T; All versions are
>>>>>>>>> supported that are supported in MapServer. However, focus is on WCS 2.0
>>>>>>>>> and WMS 1.3 and their respective Earth Observation (EO) application
>>>>>>>>> profiles.
>>>>>>>>> Language: Python and a small bit C
>>>>>>>>> Version: 0.2.0 (maybe 0.2.1 if we need to change something for example
>>>>>>>>> the packaging)
>>>>>>>>> Risk adverse organisations: EOxServer has been partly funded by the
>>>>>>>>> European Space Agency (ESA) which is currently evaluating the
>>>>>>>>> operational use. Also some European Commission supported projects are
>>>>>>>>> evaluating the usage of EOxServer.
>>>>>>>>> User community: There is a user mailing list [3] but not yet much
>>>>>>>>> traffic. According to the Python package index [4] there have been 96
>>>>>>>>> downloads in the last three weeks and according to the website
>>>>>>>>> statistics for eoxserver.org there have been around 3400 unique
>>>>>>>>> visitors
>>>>>>>>> with about 7800 visits in 2012.
>>>>>>>>> Developer community: Again we have a mailing list [3] with a bit more
>>>>>>>>> traffic and nine committers. Please see ohloh [5] for more statistics.
>>>>>>>>> Stable release: Our latest stable release is 0.2.0.
>>>>>>>>> Testing: We make extensive usage of Python's and Django's unit test
>>>>>>>>> framework and have about 900 tests included in our autotest instance.
>>>>>>>>> Additionally there are some selenium based tests of the web client and
>>>>>>>>> admin gui.
>>>>>>>>> Mature code: Again please see ohloh [5] for these statistics.
>>>>>>>>> User interface: In EOxServer we distinct between two user roles:
>>>>>>>>> operators and users. Operators can register data and control the server
>>>>>>>>> via the command line and the Django provided admin gui. Users can
>>>>>>>>> explore the available data via a simple web client based on OpenLayers
>>>>>>>>> and jQuery.
>>>>>>>>> Presentation at FOSS4G: There have been talks at the German speaking
>>>>>>>>> FOSSGIS and the recent FOSS4G-CEE conference. Please see the EOxServer
>>>>>>>>> documentation [6] for a list of presentations.
>>>>>>>>> Volunteers for liaising: Stephan Meissl and Stephan Krause
>>>>>>>>> Application installation: Since EOxServer is a Python application the
>>>>>>>>> recommended way of installation is using pip. However, since we're
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>> setuptools we can easily provide .deb packages if needed.
>>>>>>>>> 512 Meg of RAM: Yes, EOxServer can be run in 512MB of memory. However,
>>>>>>>>> the image rendering will be limited to the capabilities of MapServer
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> GDAL.
>>>>>>>>> Disk space: The current base package extracts to 22MB but includes 15MB
>>>>>>>>> of documentation. Our autotest package which we'd propose for a
>>>>>>>>> demonstration (see below) extracts to 130MB but 90MB of this are
>>>>>>>>> expected results for the tests which can be safely ignored. If needed I
>>>>>>>>> believe we can shrink the test data to under 10MB to still provide a
>>>>>>>>> meaningful demonstration. Usually we also copy the OGC schemas to speed
>>>>>>>>> up XML validation but this might not be necessary here. The packages
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> available here [7].
>>>>>>>>> Other dataset: We have to explore the already included demonstration
>>>>>>>>> data but at a first glance we think we need to include some EO data in
>>>>>>>>> order to show off the capabilities of EOxServer.
>>>>>>>>> Project Overview and Quickstart: Will of course be produced and
>>>>>>>>> provided.
>>>>>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers: Not needed.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>>>>>>>> Stephan on behalf of the EOxServer Team
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org
>>>>>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
>>>>>>>>> [3] http://eoxserver.org/doc/en/users/mailing_lists.html
>>>>>>>>> [4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/EOxServer/
>>>>>>>>> [5] https://www.ohloh.net/p/eoxserver/
>>>>>>>>> [6] http://eoxserver.org/doc_trunk/en/users/presentations.html
>>>>>>>>> [7] http://eoxserver.org/wiki/Download
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>> Brian Hamlin
>>>>>>> GeoCal-ish
>>>>>>> OSGeo California Chapter
>>>>>>> 415-717-4462 cell

Angelos Tzotsos
Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens

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