[Live-demo] [eoxserver-dev] EOxServer - an Open Source WMS/WCS for Earth Observations & OSGeo-Live

Stephan Meißl stephan at meissl.name
Tue Jun 26 07:34:33 PDT 2012


Hi Angelos,

many thanks, works perfectly.

cu
Stephan


On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:14 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> Hi Stephan,
> 
> Your account has been activated. Feel free to upload your installation 
> script and let us know if you have access.
> 
> Regards,
> Angelos
> 
> On 06/26/2012 04:15 PM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> > Alex, Cameron,
> >
> > sorry for the long silence, after holidays I still need to catch up with
> > things.
> >
> > My OSGeo account username is: schpidi
> >
> > I confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be compatible with
> > the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the time of contribution.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stephan
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 15:16 -0700, Alex Mandel wrote:
> >> Stephan,
> >>
> >> Sign up for an osgeo account, tell us your username and then we'll give
> >> you access to svn. You'll be able to manage your scripts and files
> >> directly via svn.
> >>
> >> See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#OSGeo_User_Id
> >> and the section below that on svn.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/03/2012 08:59 AM, stephan at meissl.name wrote:
> >>>   Cameron,
> >>>
> >>> many thanks for your reply. I completely agree to your proposed approach for
> >>> 6.0. What would be the best procedure to send the docs and install script?
> >>>
> >>> cu
> >>> Stephan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On June 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Stephan,
> >>>> I apologise for the slow response - this email thread has got lost in my
> >>>> email inbox.
> >>>>
> >>>> EOxServer does look like it would be a valuable contribution to
> >>>> OSGeoLive. From what I hear, it does seem to be of suitable quality
> >>>> software. I'm a bit nervous about your relatively small user community,
> >>>> as well as the existence of similar projects which will be competing to
> >>>> attract your niche user base. I would like to encourage you to reach out
> >>>> to other International Earth Observation software projects to see how
> >>>> you can collaborate, and also reach out to other Earth Observation
> >>>> communities and attract them as users. This will be important for the
> >>>> long term viability of your project.
> >>>>
> >>>> With regards to including EOxServer on OSGeoLive:
> >>>> I don't want to commit yet to including EOxServer in this 6.0 release.
> >>>> Partly due to the light community size, but mostly due to the many other
> >>>> challenges that we are going to be spending a lot of time on for this
> >>>> osgeolive release, (switching to ubuntu 12.04 and openjdk).
> >>>> However, you are welcome to write your docs and install script, and we
> >>>> can include them in the release. The docs will be on the DVD, but not
> >>>> linked from the index page, and install script won't be run during the
> >>>> build process, but can be run afterwards (eg at the start of a workshop
> >>>> which is using the DVD).
> >>>> I'd then suggest that we will probably want to introduce EOxServer into
> >>>> the OSGeoLive 6.5 release.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/05/12 22:51, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> >>>>> Brian, Angelos, all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> many thanks for your positive and encouraging comments. Was a pleasure
> >>>>> to work with you on IRC :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I like your idea of the beta software. The script you mention is
> >>>>> available in our trunk [1] together with a screen shot [2] of what I
> >>>>> achieved so far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards from Vienna, Europe,
> >>>>> Stephan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/install_eoxserver.sh
> >>>>> [2] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/screenshot.png
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:02 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was present in the discussion Brian mentions and I agree with him.
> >>>>>> EOxServer seems to be a well organized project and I feel it should be
> >>>>>> included in the disk, initially as beta software for version 6.0. This
> >>>>>> would mean no default installation but installable by the user with
> >>>>>> instructions through a quickstart document.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Stephan already created an installer for the disk and I had a chance to
> >>>>>> test it against alpha2.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>> Angelos
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 05/26/2012 03:52 AM, Brian Hamlin wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Cameron, OSGeo Live list, all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     I had the good fortune of working with Stephen briefly today.. I got
> >>>>>>> a quick look at the project source code, and I happen to work with
> >>>>>>> technology similar to some parts of EOxServer, here in California.. so
> >>>>>>> I have some way to understand what I see.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     The good news is that EOxServer is *small* and the server portion of
> >>>>>>> it can certainly work within our Live parameters for web servers.. My
> >>>>>>> first impression is that EOxServer is an agile and well organized
> >>>>>>> suite of software that simplifies reading, processing and displaying
> >>>>>>> some kinds of raster imagery, onto an OpenLayers web map. The scope is
> >>>>>>> specific, the project appears to be well run.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     SISS - I had not seen that SISS page before.. perhaps some of those
> >>>>>>> on the cc list are very involved. .
> >>>>>>> I can take a guess .. SISS appears to be more of a certified stack of
> >>>>>>> large software apps/platforms, along with their supported standards -
> >>>>>>> different than a single small app written for a specific purpose..
> >>>>>>> The naming of GML signals to me that SISS is aimed at large
> >>>>>>> institutions and research bodies..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     best regards from Berkeley, California
> >>>>>>>       -Brian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Some of the people involved in Australian/New Zealand Earth
> >>>>>>>> Observations (Andrew, RobA, Bruce, Jim, RobertG, David),
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As per below, Stephan has proposed that EOxServer be included in the
> >>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live DVD distribution, which will provide valuable marketing
> >>>>>>>> reach for EOxServer. I'm forwarding this on to each of you as I'm
> >>>>>>>> interested to understand whether the Australian Bureau of Meteorology
> >>>>>>>> (BOM) and CSIRO are aware of EOxServer. Have you considered using
> >>>>>>>> EOxServer?
> >>>>>>>> What have been your conclusions about such considerations?
> >>>>>>>> How does EOxServer compare against the SISS stack?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Stephan,
> >>>>>>>> Note that BOM/CSIRO have been investing heavily in what they are
> >>>>>>>> calling the "Spatial Information Services Stack" (SISS), which
> >>>>>>>> consists of:
> >>>>>>>> PostGIS
> >>>>>>>> GeoServer
> >>>>>>>> GeoNetwork
> >>>>>>>> THREDDS
> >>>>>>>> HollowWorld
> >>>>>>>> FullMoon
> >>>>>>>> https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/SpatialInformationServicesStackHandbook
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Stephan,
> >>>>>>>> I'm interested to know whether participants in the EOxServer have
> >>>>>>>> been in touch with programs working on the SISS stack?
> >>>>>>>> Are there any areas for collaboration?
> >>>>>>>> What are the benefits of EOxServer over SISS?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 26/05/2012 1:21 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:27 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> We are starting to build the 6.0 OSGeo-Live DVD which will be released
> >>>>>>>>>> in September 2012, ready for FOSS4G 2012 as well as many other spatial
> >>>>>>>>>> conferences. This upcoming version will be built upon the stable
> >>>>>>>>>> Xubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support (LTS) release. Documentation will be
> >>>>>>>>>> translated into eight languages, now also including Chinese and
> >>>>>>>>>> Catalan.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any new applications?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
> >>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add extra translations, or
> >>>>>>>>>> anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
> >>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> we'd like to propose the inclusion of the EOxServer [1] project in
> >>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live. Three weeks ago we released our version 0.2.0 and even
> >>>>>>>>> though it has a rather low version number we think it would add some
> >>>>>>>>> value to OSGeo-Live. However, as this is a proposal and we're surely
> >>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> aware of all policies we fully understand different opinions. It would
> >>>>>>>>> be great to hear your advice.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here are the details about EOxServer following the wiki at [2]:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Name: EOxServer
> >>>>>>>>> URL: http://eoxserver.org
> >>>>>>>>> License: MIT
> >>>>>>>>> Description and value added:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> EOxServer's mission is to provide an Open Source software framework to
> >>>>>>>>> ease the online provision of big Earth Observation data archives via
> >>>>>>>>> Open Standard services for efficient exploitation by users.
> >>>>>>>>>          * Open Source: MIT-style license
> >>>>>>>>>          * software framework: Entirely based on Open Source (Python,
> >>>>>>>>>            MapServer, Django, GDAL, etc.)
> >>>>>>>>>          * ease online provision: Admin GUI and command line data
> >>>>>>>>>            registration
> >>>>>>>>>          * big Earth Observation data archives: Operators register
> >>>>>>>>> existing
> >>>>>>>>>            raster data archives
> >>>>>>>>>          * Open Standard services: Open in the sense of freely available;
> >>>>>>>>>            Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC); WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS
> >>>>>>>>>          * efficient exploitation by users: User defined sub-setting;
> >>>>>>>>> view
> >>>>>>>>>            and download
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> OGC standards: WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS, WCS-T; All versions are
> >>>>>>>>> supported that are supported in MapServer. However, focus is on WCS 2.0
> >>>>>>>>> and WMS 1.3 and their respective Earth Observation (EO) application
> >>>>>>>>> profiles.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Language: Python and a small bit C
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Version: 0.2.0 (maybe 0.2.1 if we need to change something for example
> >>>>>>>>> the packaging)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Risk adverse organisations: EOxServer has been partly funded by the
> >>>>>>>>> European Space Agency (ESA) which is currently evaluating the
> >>>>>>>>> operational use. Also some European Commission supported projects are
> >>>>>>>>> evaluating the usage of EOxServer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> User community: There is a user mailing list [3] but not yet much
> >>>>>>>>> traffic. According to the Python package index [4] there have been 96
> >>>>>>>>> downloads in the last three weeks and according to the website
> >>>>>>>>> statistics for eoxserver.org there have been around 3400 unique
> >>>>>>>>> visitors
> >>>>>>>>> with about 7800 visits in 2012.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Developer community: Again we have a mailing list [3] with a bit more
> >>>>>>>>> traffic and nine committers. Please see ohloh [5] for more statistics.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Stable release: Our latest stable release is 0.2.0.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Testing: We make extensive usage of Python's and Django's unit test
> >>>>>>>>> framework and have about 900 tests included in our autotest instance.
> >>>>>>>>> Additionally there are some selenium based tests of the web client and
> >>>>>>>>> admin gui.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mature code: Again please see ohloh [5] for these statistics.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> User interface: In EOxServer we distinct between two user roles:
> >>>>>>>>> operators and users. Operators can register data and control the server
> >>>>>>>>> via the command line and the Django provided admin gui. Users can
> >>>>>>>>> explore the available data via a simple web client based on OpenLayers
> >>>>>>>>> and jQuery.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Presentation at FOSS4G: There have been talks at the German speaking
> >>>>>>>>> FOSSGIS and the recent FOSS4G-CEE conference. Please see the EOxServer
> >>>>>>>>> documentation [6] for a list of presentations.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Volunteers for liaising: Stephan Meissl and Stephan Krause
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Application installation: Since EOxServer is a Python application the
> >>>>>>>>> recommended way of installation is using pip. However, since we're
> >>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>> setuptools we can easily provide .deb packages if needed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 512 Meg of RAM: Yes, EOxServer can be run in 512MB of memory. However,
> >>>>>>>>> the image rendering will be limited to the capabilities of MapServer
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> GDAL.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Disk space: The current base package extracts to 22MB but includes 15MB
> >>>>>>>>> of documentation. Our autotest package which we'd propose for a
> >>>>>>>>> demonstration (see below) extracts to 130MB but 90MB of this are
> >>>>>>>>> expected results for the tests which can be safely ignored. If needed I
> >>>>>>>>> believe we can shrink the test data to under 10MB to still provide a
> >>>>>>>>> meaningful demonstration. Usually we also copy the OGC schemas to speed
> >>>>>>>>> up XML validation but this might not be necessary here. The packages
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> available here [7].
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Other dataset: We have to explore the already included demonstration
> >>>>>>>>> data but at a first glance we think we need to include some EO data in
> >>>>>>>>> order to show off the capabilities of EOxServer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Project Overview and Quickstart: Will of course be produced and
> >>>>>>>>> provided.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers: Not needed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
> >>>>>>>>> Stephan on behalf of the EOxServer Team
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org
> >>>>>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
> >>>>>>>>> [3] http://eoxserver.org/doc/en/users/mailing_lists.html
> >>>>>>>>> [4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/EOxServer/
> >>>>>>>>> [5] https://www.ohloh.net/p/eoxserver/
> >>>>>>>>> [6] http://eoxserver.org/doc_trunk/en/users/presentations.html
> >>>>>>>>> [7] http://eoxserver.org/wiki/Download
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ==
> >>>>>>> Brian Hamlin
> >>>>>>> GeoCal-ish
> >>>>>>> OSGeo California Chapter
> >>>>>>> 415-717-4462 cell
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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